Ducks, dolls and a good ol' fashioned cigarette with Neil & Luis (Part 2)

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Transcript

Welcome Back And Setup

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Hi, hi.

Dating Apps And The Cooking Test

SPEAKER_05 0:09

Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Sister Shit. I'm Meredith. I'm Caroline. Last week we had a duo so nice that we're gonna get them twice. We're back with our second part of our conversation with our dear friends, Neil and Luis. We hope you enjoy. Okay, okay. So one of the things that Neil and Luis said after listening to season one was that we need needed to do more bad dates, or I had a boyfriend for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 0:32

They're so great. They're so good.

SPEAKER_05 0:34

But Mayor's response was we ran out of bad dates with boyfriends.

SPEAKER_04 0:38

When you get married at 21, it's real tough.

SPEAKER_05 0:41

Yeah. But we've got an a new um new dating pool to share stories from. Yeah. So who wants to? Do y'all have anything for us?

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Like my only boyfriend was a very tragic story, so we probably won't share that one.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

Um, but I did go on a date with a few.

SPEAKER_05 1:01

We've all got those too. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

So I did go on a date with a gentleman. One, I feel like I have to preface by saying, I'm a Libra. I feel like I fall in love with just about the anybody that's nice to me, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's my soulmate.

SPEAKER_05 1:16

Really? Yeah, so growing up. My son's a Libra, so it's key.

unknown 1:21

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Growing up religious, I feel like I didn't really date around much, so it was really awkward knowing I was gay and not being able to do the thing. So learning so much in my 20s. And um, I went on a date with a guy. I get to pick a name. Uh um um um um um um.

SPEAKER_05 1:39

His name was Mike. Mike Mike. Mike with Mike.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Mike Mike and Mike. Mike, welcome to the stage. I wanna say that I wasn't using grinder at the time because I was like, I need to focus on finding love. So I was on Tinder. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:00

Wait, but Tinder's like the same as bright buttons on Tinder. Like, they're both very similar.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

I feel like in the gay community, I think one of them has less hole picks.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:13

Yeah, holes. I guess. Oh my god. We know nothing about online dating either. That also will do it to you if you get married at 21. So, okay, hole picks.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Clutching pearls.

SPEAKER_05 2:31

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Yeah, so we'll we'll come back, right?

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Crawl space.

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Neil is dressed as the house that fell on the Wicked Witch of the East on Halloween, and he kept referring to that crawl space. To our mother. Melissa, we love you.

SPEAKER_03 2:54

Melissa also taught you how to smash cocka chicken. Remember that girl? You did? Yes, Adam. Listen, anybody that will sit and listen to me, I will tell you about my entire life, okay?

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Love it. Love it.

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And I'll also give you a few a few free recipes.

SPEAKER_05 3:09

That's why we're friends. Okay, so you can see.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

The recipe actually does kind of play into this story, too. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 3:15

So from grinder to Tinder.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

No, no, right, right. We're testing Tinder out. It's a little bit more mild in the gay community. That's usually where you look for a long-term. Real life. Yes. Right. It's less hookup culture. Yeah. When in the gay scene.

SPEAKER_05 3:30

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Um, so match with Mike.

SPEAKER_05 3:34

Super cool.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

He's a gamer. He's in he's he is a tech bro. Um not the cutest guy, but I'll whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_05 3:46

He was really funny.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Yes. He had a good personality. It was great. Like we would talk all the time. When we first decided to meet, I literally just came to his house and we played video games, and it was like the most wholesome thing ever. Not wholesome. Different different word. W Holson W. W H. Wholesome. But he was very respectful, and I was like, that's so cool. My rule when I was dating was that the second date is always a cooking date.

SPEAKER_05 4:16

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Always, always, always.

SPEAKER_05 4:18

Wait, because you're testing out if they can cook or you're testing out teamwork or all the things.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Yes, precisely.

SPEAKER_05 4:24

Okay. Love? Love. That's brilliant. I would have never found love.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

I passed the test.

SPEAKER_05 4:29

Yeah, you did. Of course you did. You can spat up your matchmate in heaven. Y'all are a matchmate in heaven.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

But you you get to see the flow, how y'all communicate.

SPEAKER_05 4:38

Um I did the Mormon church teach you this?

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Well, no. I mean, I learned how to cook before I went on my mission.

SPEAKER_05 4:45

No, I mean like on the second date you cook. Because that feels like a Norman thing. That does.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Gotta make sure your wife knows who. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 4:53

Exactly. Exactly. And Louise is like, wait, this is for me.

SPEAKER_02 4:58

It's kind of weird. Um. Yeah, but he comes over. I'm in like this tiny little like student housing. I have two pots to my name.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

A pan and a pot.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

He comes over and he's like, oh, like, this is interesting. Um, I can't remember what we were making, but everything's going well. He is using metal utensils, a metal fork on the telephone pan. And I tell him, hey, I set up.

SPEAKER_04 5:34

This is my one pan. And my one fork.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

Right. I tell him, I'm like, use the silicone. I put it out on the counter for a reason. Again, trying to communicate, see how he handles a direction.

SPEAKER_05 5:46

And the thing is, is like, Neil would never. Heil would never.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Neil calls me out when I try and use. I'm like, excuse me, that's wood.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Only silicone. Girl, we got the KitchenAid. We need to make sure them shits last, okay? But this boy.

SPEAKER_05 6:07

Oh, KitchenAid.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

I know, we're a name brand family.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

They were name brand, but I still cared for them. He goes ham on those things and he tells me, he's like, it's alright. He's like, I'll just buy you new pots and pans.

SPEAKER_05 6:21

What? Oh, because he did Tech Bro. So he's like, I'll just get it. He's got the money.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

He's like, I'll just buy you a new set. That's fine. He's like, if I do it. Right. And I I that gave me the biggest ick. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 6:33

Yes. I don't, that is one of my big like, I do not want anyone to brag about their money to me.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

It is.

SPEAKER_05 6:39

Or waste shit. Or waste shit. Yeah. That's like in not environmental.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Just take care of your things, but also my things.

Money Flexes, Ego, And Reading The Room

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Correct. It was the disrespect in my environment.

SPEAKER_05 6:51

And to be like, I'll just buy you another one.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

That's wild, actually. It's like, that's fine, I'll just buy you another one.

SPEAKER_05 6:57

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Which he didn't.

SPEAKER_05 6:59

No.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Of course he didn't. He did not. But I also wouldn't have accepted it from him.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

Shame on Mike.

SPEAKER_04 7:05

Mike?

SPEAKER_05 7:06

Mike. Did y'all go on another date?

SPEAKER_02 7:08

We did.

SPEAKER_05 7:08

Okay. What was the third date? What was your third date requirement?

SPEAKER_02 7:12

We very random night. Had had dinner with I guess it was like an Asian club that William was a part of. William is my friend that y'all haven't met with.

SPEAKER_05 7:25

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

Um. We all decided to go out and we call Mike. Mike's like, I have a I have three rows in my Acura with his little lights. And I'll very interesting that now Neil has also an Acura with the little lights. Um it was a very nice ride. But again, it was a like he's showing off. Showing off. It was the well, like, I mean, he was really nice. Like he paid for all of our covers to go in that night. But it I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 7:56

It was just He was trying to nice.

SPEAKER_02 7:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:01

It's fine if you're looking for that, but like if you're not looking for that, he needs to read the room.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

I was 22 or 23, 22 at the time. And he was probably 24 or 25. So I'm like, Oh, that's icky.

SPEAKER_04 8:13

And like it's not like it was he was very he was like, I'm have a paycheck now.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Correct. Correct. Yeah. It was very much about his ego and not like creating a vibe or being welcoming. And it just did not work out.

SPEAKER_05 8:26

And that's so true. It's like if somebody has money and they're not like being showy, but they're really just wanting to like create a nice time for people. Right. It that shows. And it's like there's a total difference between the two of like somebody bragging and somebody being like, no, I want this good time to continue, and I want to make sure everyone's taken care of. Absolutely. Because I wish I was rich so I could take care of everything. But not in a bragging way. I just want to be like everyone enjoying themselves and like don't worry about a damn thing. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

But yeah, that was my own.

SPEAKER_05 9:06

Oh, you read you like read them pretty quick. Yeah. The second date cooking thing was.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

We had three dates, and then after that, it was like, okay.

SPEAKER_05 9:14

How many did you make Neil cook on the second date?

SPEAKER_02 9:16

We did.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

What y'all cook?

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Oh, wait. That means that you haven't read our magazine.

SPEAKER_05 9:21

No, I have, but I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Oh, humble brag, honey.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

No, I've read the zine. I've read it like three times, but I don't remember. Their wedding invitation was a magazine. And it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

It was 40 pages. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_05 9:32

I've read it. I did the quiz. Um there's a groom did you get? I remember I got I got like a music. Oh, you got the mix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

So we did um cast iron pizzas.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

The recipes in the mag.

SPEAKER_05 9:47

Okay. I need to make one.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:49

I have a square cast iron though. What? I have an uncle that is very passionate about square versus circle cast irons. And so I have a square cast iron.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

It's really funny that all eyes are round. On your stove. Oh, I was like, on your stove. On your stove, guys.

SPEAKER_05 10:07

No, exactly. But he's like, if you I think his he cuts cornbread in squares. Then you get a cornbread pan. That's called corn pound. Square pan? I don't know. We don't use it anymore because Jay's like, this is high-made. I swear. I love my pastime.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Yeah. But cast iron pizza's super delicious. Very easy. Very easy. You can literally bop up to Publix, go get their pre-made dough, and just do it.

unknown 10:33

Aww.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

It's super easy to make.

SPEAKER_05 10:35

And y'all had good teamwork in the kitchen. No scratchy pants.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Well, I do believe Neil pulled out his Kitchenade mixer. No, I didn't help us with the pizza dough. No, I didn't. We made dough from scratch, though.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Not that night. Not that night. We made homemade dad that we late. I'm like, wow, I was really trying to get this one.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

I love that. Okay, wait, you tell us something. You had a boyfriend for a minute or a bad dog.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

I had to kiss a lot of frogs. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 11:02

I mean, say.

SPEAKER_03 11:03

To find my prince charming.

SPEAKER_05 11:04

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Um, wait, I already talked about my We talked about Cocky, but didn't you have another story? But I had a bad date.

SPEAKER_05 11:12

Yeah, tell us.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

Actually Cocky was not a bad date.

SPEAKER_05 11:15

Cocky was a can we talk really, really fast? I know this is getting so long, but we know can we talk about how like Cocky truly is like the superior mascot? He really is. He's adorable. He's got a girlfriend, he's got parents.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

I imagine he's got war.

SPEAKER_05 11:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Right. He's got 2001 behind him.

SPEAKER_05 11:36

Yep, I love it.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

So in college, conveniently enough, it was after Cocky in between whatever the two birds. I found a stone that I didn't leave unturned. I don't know. Wow, this wine is really good. It was only like$9.99 at public. Yes. It's a big line. No, I mean food line. Food line, sorry. I like it too. Um, so okay, what are we gonna name this guy? Brad. Scott. Scott Scott. All American. So I was like Scottish. Crying 21. I was like 21. It was the summer, and I had we had just finished our painting class, so our entire painting class went to um, what was that bar that always smelled like a bathroom in five points? No, the other one. It does smell like a spunky. No, it was like speakeasy, speakeasy.

SPEAKER_05 12:34

No, they closed. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

So we all went there and we were all hanging out at the end of the bar.

Mascots, Bars, And Awkward First Dates

SPEAKER_04 12:39

Was I there? This is not the same painting class. No, you weren't in my painting class.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

And I noticed a guy at the end of the bar that I kind of knew because he had like helped our professor with something, and he sent me a shot at the end of the bar. I'm like, oh, okay, okay. So like I That does make you feel good.

SPEAKER_05 13:01

Right, it does.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

So I went over, I thanked him for the shot, whatever, we kind of chatted, left that night, and got an email on my school email.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

And it was like, hey, Neil, I saw you tonight.

SPEAKER_05 13:18

Um Wait, this feels stalkery. No. Is that your email?

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Well, he wa he was like a TA at the time. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:25

Okay. I'm like Orlando.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

Yeah. So he was like, hey, I saw you at the end of the bar. Um, I wanted to kind of ask for your number, but I didn't have the chops to do it. Okay. So he sent me an email.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

Alright. Usc.gov.gov. Yes, exactly. I'm like, okay, okay. So I ended up giving him my number via email. We texted, we decided we were gonna go to sushi. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:56

Where though? Because I need to know where people are eating. In Akaya?

SPEAKER_03 13:59

No, we went to tsunami downtown. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 14:02

That kind of hit.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

It literally just opened, so it was like shitty.

SPEAKER_05 14:08

Yes, it's still there. What year was this? I only ever go there. I've only ever gone there. That was like the go in college.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

Okay, yeah. Yeah. So we go for sushi, we're hanging out, we're catching vibes. Um, and at the time I was in school to be an art teacher, and he was a TA for 3D art, and then he goes on this whole tangent about people that are going to school to be art teachers aren't actually like real artists.

SPEAKER_05 14:39

Did he know that's what you're going to school for? Yes, he did.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

And I was just like, Okay, okay. But I will say, leading up to this point, the man was like a total gentleman. Even after that point, he was a total. He walked me to my car, he like gave me a kiss goodbye. But then it was after the kiss that he looks at me and he goes, Yeah, I don't think this is gonna work.

SPEAKER_04 15:02

You're like, yeah, it's not.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

I'm like literally still leaning on on my car thinking, like, wow, this is kind of like fun. Oh my god. What in the hell?

SPEAKER_05 15:13

Wait, did he say why?

SPEAKER_03 15:15

I think it was because I was studying to be an art teacher.

SPEAKER_05 15:19

What a dick. I know. And you know what?

SPEAKER_03 15:22

There have been several times since this moment that I have tried to find this man on social media because I'm like, is he as cute as like I remember him in my memory? I cannot find him. I cannot find him.

SPEAKER_05 15:33

We will find him.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

His last name.

SPEAKER_05 15:36

You know why? He's probably not an artist.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

He's probably not.

SPEAKER_04 15:39

He's probably teaching.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Which is funny because he was a TA.

SPEAKER_04 15:44

I know.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

But he was a 3D art he was a 3D sculpture artist or whatever, and actually made some of the pieces that are on the campus of McMaster.

SPEAKER_05 15:53

Oh, we can find him. We probably can. We'll find him. If anything, we can look on like the USC past directories. I hate that he said that. What a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

If Nicole can find somebody with a partial license plate, I'm sure we can find Scott.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

We should find him. He was from up north. It never would have worked. Because I was like 21 and he was like 28 or 29.

unknown 16:12

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

He was already balding. That's less of an age gap than we have. But I still have all my hair.

SPEAKER_05 16:19

Wait, how old are you? He's like a year younger than me, right? When were you born?

SPEAKER_02 16:26

95.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

Oh, you're two years. Well, no, I'm end of 93. So we're like we're like we're the same year.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Right, 90.

SPEAKER_05 16:33

And you're October of 95.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

He just turned 30, and I am about to turn 36.

SPEAKER_05 16:38

That's not bad. Yeah, not bad.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

It's actually a nice little age gap.

SPEAKER_05 16:42

It is.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's enough that I get to learn a lot about the 90s.

SPEAKER_05 16:48

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

You were born in the 90s. Barely. You were born before 9-11.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

Oh my god, Sneal, don't get on. I can't believe we haven't talked about 9-11 yet.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

I love 9-11. I just love the memes. I love the memes. I know.

SPEAKER_04 17:06

That's gonna be the title.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Like I know a lot of people.

SPEAKER_05 17:17

You're getting it from Neil. I just It's kind of like people obsessed with the Titanic.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Oh my god. I'm also interesting.

SPEAKER_05 17:26

It is.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Oh my god, wait a second. Wait a second. We were talking about like personalities earlier, those target birds. As personalities. Is that my personality, 9-11 and Titanic?

SPEAKER_05 17:39

The Target birds. At least I'm into history. Okay, can we talk really fast? Okay, I know.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

We've gotta add Southern Living into the.

SPEAKER_05 17:45

Neil comes into our house. He sees the Target birds on our board.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

You know the Target birds.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Yeah, they're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 17:51

But they come out with every season. They're jumped.

SPEAKER_03 17:53

The really cute ones with all the little oh they have two.

SPEAKER_05 17:56

Are they target bird like? I am not.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

They have two of them, and I was like, are these I was like, are these the only two that you have? And she goes, Yes, why? And I'm do you not like them? And I was like, and she goes, Jay bought them. Jay is so quick to throw him under the bus.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

Wait, wait, wait. Does he know about the Target Bird thing? No. No. He saw them in Target with Sim. I think he's safe. I think he's safe. Jay is kind of safe from anything that is online. He's precious. He knows nothing about what's going on. But also online. Okay, are people talking about this online?

SPEAKER_03 18:30

The birds? Yeah. Do you have them?

SPEAKER_04 18:32

No. But I I will say I have a bat I have a a doormat with them on it. But that's it.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

I think the people that have multiple of these birds.

SPEAKER_05 18:44

Okay, but Neil's first question was oh, you have the Target birds. Do you have more? I said no. Jay bought them. Are people col I guess Yes, people do collect them.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

And they come out every season.

SPEAKER_05 18:57

Yes, yes. Every holiday.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

Right, and they all have different personalities. And do you know what I think these people are doing? They're self-medicating by buying these birds.

SPEAKER_04 19:07

A thousand percent.

SPEAKER_05 19:08

It's like the mugs that are like blessed with like the tall, super tall skin. Ray, Ray Dun, Ray Dunn.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Ray done it again.

SPEAKER_05 19:16

Ray done it again. Also, that it's kind of like it's also if you take, say that like the person buying the birds doesn't take their medication for like three months. They end up with a baby doll.

unknown 19:34

What?

SPEAKER_05 19:35

That they are reborn. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

No! Part two. We need to have a part two. This is gonna have to be a part two.

SPEAKER_05 19:44

But they have a reborn doll.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Everybody, listen, I love that everybody has a personality, but I you know what I don't love? Is it it's somebody it's when people make things their personality. And you too. Do you know what my least fa or my least favorite thing is? It's Jeep people.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

And the duck.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

And you know what? I I literally went on like a little mini vacation this past week, and I feel like every time I saw a Jeep, and it was like the more ducks they had, the less personality they have. Like, they need the ducks to be their personality. No, I haven't met I I haven't talked to these assholes.

SPEAKER_04 20:29

My curl, my one of my kids asked me recently, like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

If any of the listeners out here have ducks, get rid of them.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

One of my girls asked me recently, like, what is the deal with ducks? What is the deal?

SPEAKER_05 20:42

He told me he wants me to have a Jeep because he's into the ducks, and I'm like, Bubba, you don't get You can buy rubber duckies any damn day. Because you're six.

Internet Oddities: Target Birds To Reborn Dolls

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Right. Rubber duckies. But it's only a certain type of Jeep. It's like the Jeep Wrangler or something. Whatever.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

I saw one in a Cherokee the other day. And I said, uh uh. You're not gonna play this game.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

There's not many things that when I just look at it, it just pisses me off. And I just want to light that shit on fire.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

The only thing I hate more than the ducks is the little stickers with the two fingers. Oh my gosh. I think that's even more interesting.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

No, do you actually fingers?

SPEAKER_02 21:16

The Jeep, it's the hand sign as you drive by, you just you pick up your when you're in the middle finger.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

They have no personality.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

And now the bar is their personality. And to me, that's trashy.

SPEAKER_05 21:29

I also got to know what else is trashy. Wait, the pause. I need to say what I think about the ducks.

SPEAKER_04 21:36

And then we can move on. I have thought, I've never voiced this. I'm really happy we're doing this. I hate them, but I think, you know what? I'm never gonna be part of that group. So you guys have your fun. Yeah. If this is making you guys happy, wow.

SPEAKER_05 21:53

I feel similarly because it's not.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

I don't feel that way at all.

SPEAKER_05 21:58

Anytime I see it, I'm like, this is not for me. I feel that way about a lot of things.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

That's interesting. I'm not interested in that.

SPEAKER_05 22:03

I'm not interested, or not my flavor. I say not my flavor about so many things. The ducks and the jeeps. The jeeps aren't my flavor either.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

I love that these people are spending$60,000 or more to have a personality.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

That's how much Jeeps are? I don't know. I'm just taking a ballpark.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

They're not that much. They're actually probably less, so then that way they can afford the fucking ducks. Okay. Do you know what else pisses me off?

SPEAKER_00 22:33

What? Wait, Carolyn had a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

And it's a reading problem for me.

SPEAKER_05 22:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

It's a marketing issue. It's a graphic design problem, I do believe.

SPEAKER_05 22:42

So many of those.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 22:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

I know exactly what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

The salt life.

SPEAKER_05 22:49

Oh my god, I have a confession.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Every time I receive those, I just see SLAT Life.

unknown 22:55

I had one of those stickers.

SPEAKER_04 22:58

It gets worse.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Honda Element. Honda Element! I was always so jealous that you had a Honda Element. I always wanted one because I love the way that the back doors opened.

SPEAKER_05 23:12

Even if the seats like all the baby.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Because she was into that slut- I mean slut life.

SPEAKER_04 23:19

Everyone Keith used to call it my slut life sticker because it was like that. It looked so ugly. Slut life. It's so ugly. I loved my Honda Element. I rhyme for Honda Elements.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

I rhyme for 9-11.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

We made it.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

If I had a twin, people would be calling us the towers, baby. Oh my god. I'm just kidding. We should probably cut that out.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

No, it's okay. Okay, but. We're two hours in at this point.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

No towers were harmed in the filming of this episode.

unknown 23:54

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

Okay, but things that piss us off. I feel like there are more of these. A sticker, you said. Oh, that's just like a simple thing. I think it pisses everyone off unless you're like really trying to. What person has that stick figure? Y'all know what I'm talking about. Like the sticker where it's like a stick figure and it's like Fing the word it. It's supposed to be like F it.

SPEAKER_03 24:19

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

But it's like the word it.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

What about the stick figures that are always on the back of a PT cruiser?

SPEAKER_05 24:26

And it's like PT cruisers don't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

I just saw one the other day and they had like nine people on the back of it.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

The thing that was odd about it was that they were all adult people. I was like, I think it was a polycaravan.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

PT polyamorous.

SPEAKER_04 24:44

Transit. Polytransit. Polytransit. It's about to be like the poly cruiser.

SPEAKER_05 24:49

The polytransit cruiser.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Girl, if you got that many people on the back of your damn PT cruiser, get a fucking U-Haul. Call the lesbians. Beep, beep, beep down. Get you your discount.

SPEAKER_05 25:08

I had something else that I hated and I can't think about what it was, but I will say, Neil and I, are you in the Reborn Babes group?

SPEAKER_03 25:14

No. Oh, the Reborn Babes. Oh gosh, I forgot we started on that.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

Okay, so we Neil and I are in a group on like a group chat on TikTok called Reborn Babes. And we just send each other videos. And it's with a couple other people. We send each other videos of people with reborn babies.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

I don't know how they started coming up on my page. And I I really don't know how this has become a lifestyle for people, but you know what?

SPEAKER_05 25:41

Uh the one that the one the recent one where the woman is going through her like entire morning routine where she's getting all of her babies up for the day. There's a teenager. How much does it weigh? I don't know, but it's really disturbing.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

They're like, they're not they're not anatomically correct, but they're like they're weighted. Weighted.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

Okay, if you don't know what a reborn baby is, it's a handmade baby doll that like looks really A lot of people get them like as babies or like young.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

Supposed to be a therapeutic.

SPEAKER_05 26:16

Or I was gonna say, or like in an in a nursing home, like when you have dementia and you want to care for a baby, that is totally okay. Right, right. But like when it's just like your hobby and you're like filming content of you taking care of these like fake babies, it's not my flavor.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

When you're try when you're dressing up as your favorite Disney character for their birthday parties.

SPEAKER_05 26:41

Yes. Okay, I think that's a good thing. But the recent one I showed it to Jay. I showed it to Jay this morning and said, Jay, this is stressing me out. I showed it to him and he said, damn it, Caroline, don't ever show me shit like that ever again. Like he was pissed off. What was the content? They were like, She was like waking up her babies in the morning.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

Right.

SPEAKER_05 27:01

And she was doing voices for them. Oh, yeah. Like she was like, wake up, and then she did like the teenager being like, Ugh, I don't want to get up, mom. Like it was really.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Are you talking about the cosplay girl?

SPEAKER_05 27:12

I don't know, but she's got cribs all over her house for babies.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Yeah, I think we're talking about the different one, but she just discovered like AI voices or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 27:22

She's getting into it.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

She's like really getting into it.

SPEAKER_05 27:24

Wait, there's something.

SPEAKER_03 27:25

She's not like, How are you doing, Jessica? And it's just like Jessica's like leaned up next to a black.

SPEAKER_05 27:33

Jessica's broken. Yeah, she's all the damn time.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Because she took her swimming. My girl is duct taped together. Y'all know way too much about this. Okay, but there's a- I took my duct tape daughter to Disney World.

SPEAKER_04 27:48

Your views are paying for these reborns. I know all the time. I know Jessica fixed.

SPEAKER_05 27:54

And she needs a new one. Jessica is not.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

And they they are they are in they are influencers, okay? And they are influencing me to watch a minute of their videos to be able to get paid by the industry.

SPEAKER_05 28:07

Typically. But I will say, reborn babes is equal to, in my opinion, hobby horsing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

Wait, what is hobby horsing?

SPEAKER_05 28:19

The people that ride fake horses. They like ride sticks.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

The stick with the horse head on top.

SPEAKER_05 28:24

And I just saw typically like 20 and under. No, but I just saw old Germans. Lots of Germans.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Is there a crossover between this and like people that play Quidditch?

SPEAKER_04 28:37

There should be.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Oh my gosh, do you remember that guy that sat in our drawing class next to us that was on the Quidditch team for USC?

SPEAKER_04 28:45

No. He was who was it?

SPEAKER_03 28:48

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

Damn. I wonder how he's doing.

Hobbies, Quidditch, And Fan Culture

SPEAKER_03 28:51

But I remember the first day of class, it was like, tell us something interesting about yourself. And he was just like, I don't remember this. I'm the s the snitch snitcher? The seeker? The seeker. Seeker. He's like, I'm the seeker on the Quidditch team for USC. And I'm just like, lame! It's probably a good thing I didn't become an art teacher because I would have just No, okay.

SPEAKER_05 29:17

Those kids would have had a better life because somehow, somehow though, that seems more okay to me than like That's because you're a fangirl if you're not gonna be a fan of the game. No, but like I would never play Quidditch. Like that's weird. You can't fly. Why are you doing this? But like I recently hobby dogging.

SPEAKER_04 29:36

What is hobby dogging?

SPEAKER_05 29:38

They're doing like Quidditch.

SPEAKER_02 29:39

They're doing like Jay's walking down the steps announcing he would play Quidditch.

SPEAKER_03 29:45

The people that play Quidditch are just a bunch of virgins with brooms between their legs. Let's be real.

SPEAKER_05 29:50

Yeah. They're probably sexually active. They're kinky. It's drama kids. And drama. They're all having sex with each other.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

Drama kids are kinky. But there's also Bacney, right?

SPEAKER_05 30:05

Lots of Bacney. Lots of Bakne.

SPEAKER_04 30:08

Even if it's a big diagram, like hobby horse, Quidditch, Dramakid. Reborn, Reborn. Reborn. I don't know. Reborn. I'm not ready to deal with reborn.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

Which one who okay? Who progresses in this situation to being a reborn? How do you evolve with these?

SPEAKER_04 30:24

Hobby horses.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

Huh? Hobby horsers.

SPEAKER_04 30:26

Wait, wait wait, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 30:27

Like, what do you start? Do you like do Quidditch people? Well, no, that's probably.

SPEAKER_05 30:31

No, I think Quidditch people probably progress to hobby horsing.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

Because they have a stick between their legs. So who evolves into a reborn girl? I see baby doll girl that never grew up. I just but then why not just have a bunch of glass cases with baby dollars?

SPEAKER_05 30:53

I was gonna say the reborn stuff is typically trauma, which makes me feel bad for talking about it, but I'm also like there are resources and therapy.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

We are talking about the people that are not using it for like a therapeutic stuff.

SPEAKER_05 31:05

No, but I think even so I think it's still stense. It's still a you're filling a hole that hasn't been.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Well, this one girl I follow, she just got a really bad haircut.

SPEAKER_05 31:19

Are you saying that she has trauma?

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Yeah, because she got banged. She got bowl cut. She got a bowl cut and banged.

SPEAKER_05 31:26

Not the reborn baby. The haircut.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Oh, well, I'm sorry, I did it. Spliced out. Sorry. Sorry, listeners.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

Bullcut. That's like um on pin 15. Maya's haircut.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

She is begging for attention.

SPEAKER_05 31:43

You think?

SPEAKER_03 31:44

She has a duct tape dolly. Oh, yeah. That she's pushing in a swing.

SPEAKER_05 31:48

She's the one that.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

And in between her showing her reborn dolls, she's dressing up as God knows who. Last time I scrolled through a page, she dressed up as Dorothy and she was singing some shitty off Broadway somewhere over the rainbow.

SPEAKER_05 32:04

Wait, but have y'all seen the pole dancer? I was just about to bring her up. She's a reborn mom? No, she's not. No, no, no. She's just a pole dancer. But she dresses up like Disney characters, which I'm like, Rapunzel does not pole dance, boo-boo. Like that's okay. Imagination is a thing. And also, like, okay, so that's not the issue I have with it.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

I have a lot of other issues with it.

SPEAKER_05 32:27

It's the bad point. Oh, she also talks about her family trauma. Like, she'll do text about her family trauma over her pole dancing videos.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

You know, my biggest issue with it is the song is playing so quietly in the background. It's like on a bow speaker in the corner of the room, and she sings along to it. Look at this stuff. Like she's like twirling and the poles like shaking. It's like the pole is hanging on for dear life.

SPEAKER_05 32:56

It's like a lot of skidding. Skidding. There's lots of skitting.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

It's so.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

Meredith was also the person that introduced me to the um uh Oops, I did it again music video without any music, and it's just her like leather.

SPEAKER_05 33:14

Oh my god. Yeah, and her sneaker and sneaker the That is what this pole dancing video is like. Oh wait, wait, wait. Send me the link. Can we talk really fast?

SPEAKER_03 33:23

This just reminded me of We've been talking really fast all night, and then this is two hours in Portland.

SPEAKER_05 33:29

I have an idea that we're just gonna break this up into two weeks, which will save Meredith and I some producing stuff. So this is great. So we're this. This is great. We've got two episodes right here. So the people that are on this on week two, welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Hi it's still uh we're actually still here. We've never left.

SPEAKER_05 33:52

It's been a week.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

But also, if we're gonna listen to this episode, I recommend going ahead and just drinking a bottle of wine and then turning the bigger one. We started the last one with the cheers.

SPEAKER_05 34:03

Yeah, I think people have already seen the progression.

unknown 34:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Bells will be rigged, sad.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Okay, but I was gonna say, when we were at your house for the Thanksgiving, that wasn't Thanksgiving dinner.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

That turned into the Clurb.

SPEAKER_05 34:23

Yeah, turned into the Clurb. The thing that turned it into the Clurb was you said you put on Lady Gaga's halftime Super Bowl halftime performance where she died. Here's the thing and that turned it.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_05 34:41

And the lighting, and the lighting. And the lighting and the wigs.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

And then the random gay men showing up to her house. Right, the four gay men that showed up. I know. I'm glad I prefaced that, like, hey, don't bring this up.

SPEAKER_05 34:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

Anyways. Um yeah. Love Super Bowl performances. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

Okay, can we talk about who what your all-time favorite is?

SPEAKER_03 35:04

My all-time favorite.

SPEAKER_05 35:06

The boo. Oh, the boo is your favorite.

SPEAKER_03 35:09

It might be a little comfortable. It might be a little cost.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Keith recently was like, she didn't know. I was like, Keith, she knew. She had a pasty on. Yeah, she knew. And he said, maybe she was just wearing that. No. I was like, it coordinated with her outfit. She was not just wearing a freaking such a straight man. I know.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Such a straight man.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

No, she knew. She knew.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

No, I love um J-Lo and Shakira. I think that's one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_05 35:34

I was gonna say J-Lo and Shakira. I love that. But unfortunately, we watched it with a bad group.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

Mm-hmm. Oh. You gotta watch Super Bowl with people that are there for the halftime show. Right.

Super Bowl Halftime Hot Takes

SPEAKER_04 35:46

And our group was just hyper religious, and we're like, we're not watching this. It's sexual.

SPEAKER_05 35:53

They left the room. They left the room. And I was like, talk about a vibe killer. You know? I'm like, just pretend. Like, you're not gonna go to hell for watching this halftime show. Just like chill so I can enjoy this. Because you're ruining the vibe. I know.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

Lady Gaga's is great.

SPEAKER_05 36:09

Lady Gaga's was great. I loved it. I also really liked um the one that was like was it la who was last year?

SPEAKER_03 36:18

Oh, I don't know, but I will tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 36:20

The houses that were everywhere. Over the weekend?

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Oh, I didn't know that many stopped listening to him. Men they not like us. Men did not perform. Oh, they don't like us. Kendrick Lamar. Oh he was good. He did pretty good.

SPEAKER_05 36:34

I loved that one. Yes, that was good.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

But like statistically, men don't do as well.

SPEAKER_05 36:39

But I do believe Bad Bunny's gonna kill it. I especially with all the controversy around it. I think he's thinking he is going to bling it. And that's my cousin. That's my hot cousin. That's our cousin. That's our cousin. By marriage.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

By marriage. So we can fuck him. I mean, think he's hot.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

You know, Bad Bunny is one of those people that like really surprised me. Oh, I love Bad Bunny. I feel like I don't, I still don't listen. I've never listened to his music, but he he him on SNL. Oh, he's fabulous. He like one. He's fabulous. No, he is. No, I know he is.

SPEAKER_05 37:15

Like he just like the way he addresses everything is just like so yeah. He's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

He's like professional and sexy at the same time.

SPEAKER_05 37:25

And and the way that he like has addressed all the controversy. I don't know anything about this.

SPEAKER_04 37:29

I literally only know him from SNL. Sorry, I only made fun of you for saying fabulous because you're holding a glass of wine and we were talking about the dinner table, and I you sounded like like an aunt talking at that bunny. Oh my god, he's fabulous.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

I'm Martha Stewart. He's fabulous. Everybody eat the pie. I don't want to bring home any leftovers.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

I made 86. Eat up, bitches.

SPEAKER_05 37:56

I love that we never circled back to Paula Deen. Oh, yeah. Or like, she's the racist and that everyone's like, oh shit. She's gonna say some shit.

SPEAKER_03 38:04

She's coming this year.

SPEAKER_05 38:06

She's gonna say some shit.

SPEAKER_03 38:08

And everyone's like, We only invite her because she makes the best deviled eggs and all the time. She's gonna make my tongue.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

Do you know who she hates at the table? Amanda Bynes.

SPEAKER_05 38:15

And Bad Bunny. And Bad Bunny. And her. She's like, Amanda Bynes is trash. Her mac and cheese is gonna make all of us shit our pants. Yes. It's filled with butter. Two sticks of butter.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

Our family, like, often quotes this one YouTube cut of her show with this like random guest where they're someone slowed it down. So they sound like they're on Qua Lut. And they're like, where they're eating a bur a donut burger. It's like a triple decker burger between two glazed donuts, and they're like, oh. We're we're gonna get arrested. It's like so but us and our mom, quote, and Keith. All the time.

SPEAKER_05 39:02

We're gonna get arrested. Can we talk about Quaaludes? How that was like a whole moment in time, and now they like who are they gone? Did they disappear? Okay, I want to talk about ketamine.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

Because it comes up, I feel like it's like very much.

SPEAKER_04 39:20

Ketamine is healing. This is coming from a 35-year-old person in Columbia, South Carolina who has two kids and does not go out. Isn't it a horse drink relationship? No, listen, y'all. I hear it come up in pop culture all the time. Like it's like the drug that people are doing. No, no, it's it's recreational. I'm like, how are we doing? No, it's recreational. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Like, how are people doing this recreational? I can barely get my hands on Sky Rizzy.

SPEAKER_04 39:45

So I don't think people in Columbia are doing it, but like, I mean, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_03 39:49

Give it five years. I know, but we just got our park renovated.

SPEAKER_05 39:53

True. But like, I'm just And it has a clear boundary. I need to talk to someone. Like, I listened to a podcast where there was Like I was on Ket at this wedding. Ket at the wedding?

SPEAKER_04 40:03

Yes. Like I was in the King.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

It's a specific circle that's using ketamine. And to me, when I think of ketamine users, I think of like spoiler room, circuit twinks. Circuit twinks. Wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_05 40:16

What are these terms? Explain boiler room and circuit twinks. Like um underground rave party. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. I didn't know why circuit twinks.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Because they go to all the raves and they're a twink.

SPEAKER_05 40:29

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

Do you know what a twink is?

SPEAKER_05 40:31

Yes, yes. So, okay, that's the vibe.

SPEAKER_04 40:35

Yeah, I I just I'm like, it seems people are doing it for intense therapy, and people are also doing it in the clerb, and I don't understand how those two things how one thing is two things. How does it make you feel? I looked it up. I think it's it's like deeply. I forgot, but it's it's not something I want to take in the colour. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 40:56

Okay, but can we talk about something? It's like slightly halus hallucinatory. How do y'all feel? Did y'all watch Nine Perfect Strangers?

SPEAKER_02 41:02

Ludgy feeling where it's like it's detachment.

SPEAKER_05 41:05

Yeah. It's like you take it so you can get a dive into trauma and therapy. Well, I know that's what I'm saying. I was gonna say, have y'all watched Nine Perfect Strangers? And would y'all ever go to that kind of retreat? Because I feel like I feel like I need anything to do with that.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

Um, what's her name? Like that wig?

SPEAKER_05 41:18

Nicole Kidman. Nicole Kidman.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

I saw her face and her wig, and I was like, I don't know if I can see it. No, it's a good show.

SPEAKER_05 41:24

It's a good show. And I I honestly. She's like the least annoying at like in recent things she's done, she's the least annoying in that.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

Oh. I have a theory about Nicole Kidman. Okay, tell us. Nicole Kidman, I feel like, is always in like these kind of crazy roles. Yes, with wigs. Right. And they're always bad wigs.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

What's with the wigs?

SPEAKER_03 41:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 41:46

I always think her hair looks like a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 41:48

But you know what I think? I think I think she's just like pitched these roles and she's like, yeah, I I think I want to get away from Keith. You know, Keith Urban. And now they're getting a divorce, and I feel like Oh, they're getting a divorce.

SPEAKER_05 42:01

I know. Yes. Newsflash. I didn't know. Newsflash. You had a beer verse, right?

SPEAKER_03 42:08

For the last couple weeks. Uh like like a month ago.

SPEAKER_05 42:11

This is not in my algorithm.

SPEAKER_03 42:13

It was barely in my algorithm. Well, it was confirmation for mine.

SPEAKER_05 42:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

Because I'm like, she's just taking like, what was the perfect couple? Oh, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_05 42:22

I did two, but like, you didn't like it. I liked it and it ended and I said, okay. Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 42:28

We're not talking about TV anymore.

SPEAKER_05 42:29

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 42:30

Y'all talk about this enough in your podcast. Or do they have the contributory?

SPEAKER_05 42:33

All of season two has been about TV. Thank you for being in here.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

That's why we were asking about movies.

SPEAKER_05 42:38

Thank y'all.

SPEAKER_03 42:41

The big screen. The big screen.

SPEAKER_05 42:44

Film, if you will.

SPEAKER_03 42:46

Silver screen.

Holiday Hosting, Traditions, And Ten Trees

SPEAKER_05 42:47

Which we just downloaded an app called Letterboxd. Letterboxed. Letterboxed apostrophe duh. And you rate films. It's like good reads for movies. Yeah. It's very fun. It's very fun. You follow people. Yeah. I've been doing lots of reviews. I don't do reviews on restaurants, but I've been doing movie reviews. I reviewed the new Jonas Brothers Christmas movie. I just watched it. Bad. A little bit like bad. What I expected. I didn't expect more. Did you? Mm-hmm. And I think that was a me problem. Yeah, that was a me you problem. I was exactly I watched it halfway as I was scrolling my phone. It was boring. And I thought this is exactly what they it needed to be.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

I literally I watched like five minutes of it and I paused and I told I literally texted Neil and I was like, hey, pre-screen the Joe Bros. I think you're gonna enjoy it. I was like, I think this is really funny. I think they're like poking fun at themselves.

SPEAKER_05 43:46

It's a lot of poking fun at themselves, but it's also there's a whole hour that's boring.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

Like, I don't know. Anyway, and they like talked about how they've been wanting to do a Christmas movie for 10 years. And I'm like, That's what they do over the past ten years, this is what you've come up with.

SPEAKER_04 44:03

My bar is so low for Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_05 44:05

That's true. Camp Rock 3 is going to be a fucking hit. We are going to have a viewing party.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

We need to do a viewing party.

SPEAKER_05 44:15

We would have a sister shit viewing party. But I think you can adjust your extra. No, no, no. Like it's going to hit in a horrible way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

And they believe she's back to she her pronouns.

SPEAKER_05 44:26

Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay, have we talked about Demi? We've talked about Demi.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Yeah. You did in your Camp Rock.

SPEAKER_05 44:33

And we talked about her recently because her We talked about her recently because her um what do you call it? Documentary. One of three. There's like three separate. Horrible. Yeah. And she's in this. And I'm like, I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. And it's like they're the counselors. Love it. And there's new kids. I do kind of love that the Joda Bros are back on Disney Channel. Me too. And Frankie, I don't think it's in this, but Frankie was in a little bit of the Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Is that Dancing Girl gonna be back?

SPEAKER_05 45:08

I doubt. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

She's really just Nessa's in a wheelchair, huh? Not Nessa.

SPEAKER_05 45:14

What's her name?

SPEAKER_04 45:16

Alison Stoner.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Yeah. She's what is she up to?

SPEAKER_05 45:21

Nair's got opinions on her. I listened to her documentary. I listened to her podcast about child stars.

SPEAKER_04 45:29

And she's doing a lot of she's honestly very proactive in getting new laws, ref like reforming the laws for child stars.

SPEAKER_05 45:38

Which that's cool. Yeah, she's doing great. I don't think she'd be interested in camp rock. They're not interested. They're not interested in camp rock. They're doing other things.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

So turning the conversation, we've talked about the past. Probably last episode now because we're cutting.

SPEAKER_05 45:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

We've talked about the present. What is everybody looking forward to this holiday season? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 46:00

I also have a question for the video.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

Is anybody hosting? Is anybody doing any fun things?

SPEAKER_05 46:04

We're hosting my mom and dad for Christmas Eve. Y'all are hosting our Christmas holiday cocktail club.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

Don't let everybody know about it. I'm gonna wear a fancy dress.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

You should have a few.

SPEAKER_05 46:17

Yeah, can we make it like kind of fancy? Of course.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

Yeah, that's why it says holiday attire encouraged.

SPEAKER_05 46:22

Okay. I'm hosting my mom and dad, and I always make a whole fish on Christmas Eve. Because why? There's nothing like a whole fish. That's what they say. That's what they say. AKA, that's what we say.

unknown 46:37

Good to go.

SPEAKER_05 46:38

There's nothing like a whole fish. How are you preparing this? Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Like the entire fish. You go to whole fish. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 46:46

You say I would like a whole fish, I want it deboned. You get it at home, you put herbs in it. And you rope and lemon. You rope that bit. And then you tie it. Headless. It's like a little king. You leave the head on either. It wouldn't be around.

SPEAKER_04 46:58

How do they remove the bones? They can debone the body and leave the head.

SPEAKER_05 47:02

But because you're not going to eat the head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:05

I know. It's just couple of pieces.

SPEAKER_05 47:07

Yeah. No, but that's that's the thing, Neil. It's like there's nothing like a whole fish with the head on. You want the look at you while you're eating it. It's a beautiful display.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

I kind of want to see this.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:20

It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 47:21

Last year I did like a Persian version. I think I'll go back to like a classic.

SPEAKER_05 47:25

I made a Persian veggie to go with it. Yeah. It was good. We had a great we did like a Persian Christmassy. So my mom and dad are having our coming. And and then yeah, before that I'm hosting your birthday party. Caroline's turning. It's Sag season 32, bitch. Don't add a. Wait, are you guys hosting?

SPEAKER_03 47:47

We are hosting Christmas this year.

SPEAKER_05 47:49

Who's coming?

SPEAKER_03 47:50

Um, my parents and aunt and uncle.

SPEAKER_05 47:54

What are y'all making?

SPEAKER_04 47:55

What are y'all cooking?

SPEAKER_05 47:56

I don't know yet.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

We normally do like a little brunch-lunch situation.

SPEAKER_05 48:00

Okay. Christmas Day. What's y'all's favorite like holiday tradition?

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Taking Christmas down. No. Yeah, you don't like it. I love the feeling of our home feeling like a minimalist dream after we get rid of everything.

SPEAKER_05 48:18

I relate to that too.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

So today I will say that we did go around the house. So we have um ten decorated trees.

SPEAKER_05 48:27

Oh my god, no wonder you're ready for it to take this. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 48:31

Keep keep wait.

SPEAKER_05 48:32

So there's How many square feet is your house?

SPEAKER_03 48:35

So there's five that are like over five feet.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

That's so many trees.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

And then there's like five that are under five feet, right? But then Luis was like, I wonder how many Christmas trees we actually have, like, in the house.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

Because we have a collection of like ceramics. Ceramic and like paper trees.

SPEAKER_03 48:55

And like this, that, and the other.

SPEAKER_05 48:56

I cannot wait for a cocktail club.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Wait, we can't explode it till after because we want to ask people to get it. Yeah, don't tell us.

SPEAKER_05 49:06

Wait, should we do our guess now? I'm gonna guess we can bleep it. 49. 49? Is that including like photos? That's including every Christmas tree. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 49:18

You have to think about that there are spoon rests and 74.

SPEAKER_05 49:25

74.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

Does that include the decorated trees?

SPEAKER_05 49:28

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 49:31

74. Okay, remember that. This is like every tree in every form.

SPEAKER_04 49:36

Correct. 10. No. 90. No.

unknown 49:41

I guess.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

79. It'll be revealed at Cocktail Club.

SPEAKER_05 49:45

Well, that's now I understand your need for minimalism.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

Right, because we go from literally every inch being filled, but I love it.

SPEAKER_05 49:55

It's fun for the season. It really is. It's like, and that's why we do it for a month. Because you can't live surrounded by it.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

I wait until after New Year's.

SPEAKER_05 50:05

We do too. Yeah, we wait for for the I do this Saturday or Sunday after Thanksgiving. And then I do.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

This year I did actually the week before Thanksgiving because I kind of want to do that. Because it was so late. And I mean, putting up 10 fully decorated trees.

Elf On The Shelf Meltdown And Parenting Styles

SPEAKER_05 50:20

Yeah, you've got more decorations than me. Can we talk about the elf? Oh you never shared your elf story. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 50:28

I've resisted the elf for so long. We now have an elf. The elf came earlier than it ever has. Normally we wait until after cr after school gets out. I the elf came early. Yesterday I said, listen, Keith, let's embrace the magic. We have one more kid that still believes in Santa for Lord knows who how long. We're embracing it. Today my oldest kid who no longer believes in the elf is now moving the elf constantly. So the elf is moving all over the house anytime the other child is the same. It's like her thing, right now.

SPEAKER_05 51:01

She's telling me about it.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

Love it. She's in on it. She loves it. She moves In on the elf or in on all of it.

SPEAKER_05 51:07

In on all of it. All of it.

SPEAKER_04 51:09

So she believes. Anyway, so she moved the elf to the coffee table. Kit tells me, Kit's my youngest, she tells me, um, the elf moved the coffee table. I thought I said, oh my gosh, I did. I thought nothing of it. Then, next thing I know, she's pouring tears. The dog, we have a nine-month-old puppy.

SPEAKER_05 51:30

The puppy chewed the elf. Which, like, duh, that shit's gonna happen. Puppies chew everything else. Only on, like, got her eyebrow and her little hat.

SPEAKER_04 51:38

Which I have to go home right now and sew because she's has she's supposed to go back to the North Pole and get repaired tonight. You should have brought her. I should have brought her here.

SPEAKER_05 51:46

You could also, though, like, not have her show up tomorrow and have her, like, send a letter and be like, Kit, I'm doing great.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

Okay, but listen, this is what the girls can make her get well.

SPEAKER_05 51:57

Yes, yes, great ideas. That could give you like four days. Yes.

unknown 52:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

Okay, this is what Kit said. Yo, Kit cried. Kit cried for no less than 30 minutes. She's just torn up about the elf.

SPEAKER_05 52:13

I said, I to the point where I'm like, Kit, we gotta move on. I say, go take a shower. I always tell someone. Anytime he's losing it, I say, go reshoot. She's on the couch, she's crying. I said, Kit, it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 52:24

Wrap it up. We gotta, we gotta move on. Then she comes to my room, she's in my bed. Y'all, it was so sad. She's crying, she's crying in my bed. She said, I just feel like Sparkles has had the worst day today. Oh, Katie, I know. I said, Kit. Y'all. I was like, Kit, they're trained for this. Marines! I was like, they know what they're getting into.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

Like, they, they know they're gonna They're the special forces of the North Pole.

SPEAKER_04 53:03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

I've seen the Santa Claus. I know.

SPEAKER_04 53:08

I was like, for Christmas. I said, Kit, she like, listen, she's not going any. Well, she oh my gosh, oh my gosh, first she touched her. Before the dog got her, she touched her. So she was already crying that the magic was gone. Does she think that?

SPEAKER_02 53:22

I hope she doesn't feel that she's the reason why she went into this accident.

SPEAKER_04 53:27

No, she got into this accident. Well, I think she was she was just uh she's an Aries. She's she's an Aries, lots of feelings.

SPEAKER_05 53:35

Big feelings, big feelings. I'm an Aries. So she was like, I love I'm like, I'm talking off the clo off the edge.

SPEAKER_04 53:43

I'm like, Kit, it's okay. I I don't think that's real. I think she's still gonna come back. She likes being here, it's fine, blah blah blah. Then the dog got her. So then that's what I was like, that's what she was like, she's had the worst day.

SPEAKER_05 53:56

And I was like, it's yeah, she's trained for this, and we're like gonna, I don't know. She Mary, you really pulled it out though, because that's the whole thing, is like, and this is super controversial, so like don't judge me on this shit. I didn't do Santa with my kid. People were really judgy about that. I said, I can't keep up with the narrative. He Saint Nicholas was a person.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

I just had a car thought while I was driving home today, and I was like, the parents that judge others for not doing a Santa, I'm like, I'm sorry that I don't need to bribe my kid with a secondary person. Yeah, more complicated.

SPEAKER_05 54:39

And that's kind of no, so that's kind of my thing, and and this is like for me personally. I I had Santa as a kid, I'm fine. It does not affect anyone any type of way. I just said I will never lie to my kid. That includes Santa. That includes, you know, if they're like, can I have some of your food? And you say, No, it's spicy because you don't want them to eat it, I'm not gonna do that because I'm not gonna lie to them. It's like, I don't know. I'm just like, if I if I break down that like trust, and maybe it's maybe it is a like a trauma response. No, but I think it was just a decision y'all made. Anyways, it's also mostly because I can't keep up with the narrative. Yeah, Keith, I can't lie. Okay, Keith yesterday was like, I'm so sick of this. And I said, Keith lean into the medium. I can't lie. I can't.

SPEAKER_04 55:30

And then today, after the 30 minutes of crying about this damn elf, that I've I have told her point blank, elf isn't real, elf is a toy.

SPEAKER_05 55:37

Oh, and also can we talk about the fact that Kit has drilled Simeon? Oh yeah. Like Meredith's daughter has drilled my son about like, do you believe has she? Kit? At the beach. When we were all, it was like 6 a.m. and our doors were open. We could hear them. Oh yeah, yeah. It was so early. We were at the beach house, so all of us can hear them talking. Edistow. Oh, oh, oh. And Sim is stressed. You can hear the stress. He has been impressively like He knows don't ruin the magic for anyone else. Like he knows that. And so a lot of pressure. And so Kit's like, do you believe? And Sim's like, it's okay if you believe. And she's like, but do you believe? And Sim's like, I know that St. Nicholas was a real person.

SPEAKER_02 56:32

He's such a genre. I know. I know.

SPEAKER_05 56:38

I know, I know. It's been a whole thing. But yeah, so anyway, today was a freaking Sidney is a a Libra, right? He's a Libra.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

There you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 56:48

And kits and Aries.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

Do you believe?

SPEAKER_05 56:52

I know.

SPEAKER_03 56:53

Also, when y'all were kids, was your Santa gifts wrapped or wrapped? Wrapped.

SPEAKER_05 56:57

Mine were wrapped. Yours were wrapped.

SPEAKER_03 56:59

Wrapped.

SPEAKER_05 56:59

Unless they were big. Like one time we got a seesaw, it was unwrapped. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

All of my Santa gifts were always unwrapped.

SPEAKER_05 57:06

So same with my husband, same with Jay's.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

We didn't do Santa Claus, and my mom tried to introduce Santa once we were too old for it. Interesting. But I think it was because Karina was still so young, my little sister. And I think she was trying to bring her magic for a magic, yeah. But we're like, You're like, what was this for?

SPEAKER_05 57:24

Wait, so you didn't grow up with Santa. Do you feel like that affected you negatively at all?

SPEAKER_02 57:30

I mean, no. Like, for me, the magic of the holidays is like thinking of others.

SPEAKER_05 57:37

It's yes, and that's kind of what we're trying to instill is like you're making a list for somebody else and what you want to get them. And you're like, last year we made him deliver all of the Christmas cards to our neighbors. And like, we're trying to instill that.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

Yes. Yeah. It's an empathy. It's looking at the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 57:56

But he's also asking for an animatronic stitch. So, like, he's also, you know. But I accidentally ordered two of those. I know. So I got two coming tomorrow. Okay, I want to know.

Santa, Honesty, And Teaching Empathy

SPEAKER_03 58:09

An animatronic stitch.

SPEAKER_05 58:10

Both of our kids are obsessed with stitch.

SPEAKER_04 58:13

They're both getting stitched that says a hundred different things.

SPEAKER_05 58:16

It's the only thing kids asked for. And I accidentally ordered a simple screen. Wait, can I tell y'all what Sim? Can I tell you what Sim asked for? A bag of balloons and a Kirby shirt.

SPEAKER_03 58:29

A Kirby? What is a Kirby shirt?

SPEAKER_05 58:30

Kirby. It's like a video game. Which he already got. So now he's like, I where's my bag of balloons? But Okay, I haven't should I ask a final question?

SPEAKER_03 58:42

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 58:43

I wanna know, because we laughed about like my hummingbird like drinking out of the hummingbird feeder earlier. I want to know your like weirdest childhood story. Like, what is your like thing that you did as a child that you're like, oh god, I can't ever repeat this. I want to know it.

SPEAKER_02 59:02

Loved Harry Potter growing up. So I I would make potions. I feel like a lot of our listeners probably did too.

SPEAKER_05 59:09

I was making potions in the bathtub every time I took a bath. Before Harry Potter. I was making bikinis out of bubbles. Me too. And and lots of beards. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

I vividly remember breaking uh a branch from our tree, carving my own wand.

unknown 59:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

I love this. Infused it with our pet hair for magic.

SPEAKER_05 59:33

What pet? Was it like a dog?

SPEAKER_02 59:35

A dog, yeah. Which is why my spells never work.

SPEAKER_04 59:40

This is the first Neils hearing of this.

SPEAKER_02 59:42

Like, I like went as far as making like my own wand holsters. And I loved a cadence.

SPEAKER_05 59:51

Wait, but you but but also like you grew up religious and you were allowed to do marijuana. Because our mom immediately was like, it's weird. It's so weird. Same with Pokemon. I was like, I'm into Pokemon and Sailor Moon. And my mom said, nope, weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Yeah, yeah. My mom was very weird about magic. I think Harry Potter it was a kid's thing, so I think she was kind of a little less defensive about it. And then we had also moved to America, which I think she was really afraid of us calling DSS on her.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

Oh sh shit. Of y'all calling DSS on her?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:29

Oh shit. So I think we Did y'all know what DC DSS was?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:33

Yeah, like who doesn't know what child protective service is?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:37

DSS was. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

Yeah. That's so funny. It's a good thing. She becomes very traumatic for her being.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

She's like, you can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

Right. And so she's like, if you want to do the Harry Potter thing, fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:48

Just don't call DSS. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

Yeah. But yeah, yeah, and I vividly remember like nylon. It was a it was a camping tent divider. That's like that sheer white nylon-y thing. It was huge and it would billow so beautifully when I walked in it. That was my cake.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:14

Love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

And I'm pretty sure I was in gay school around the time that was. That's okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:21

Having her meeting.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:22

That's okay to be a wizard. I honestly love that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

Just waiting for my hunger letter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:29

Love that.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:30

I love that. Because when you meet the wizard. Wait, what's your weird?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

Once I approve my word.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:40

Waiting for since Okay, what's your weird childhood story?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:48

Um, probably okay, so my grandfather always had like a big garden. And I just remember one time like he didn't like cut everything down afterwards, and like his tomato plants had like dried out. And I remember like breaking off the stems because they're hollow on they're hollow on the inside, right? And I remember lighting them like a cigarette in my little treehouse.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:15

This is literally like you to your core.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:20

Wait, I'm obsessed.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:22

Because you know they're hollow on the inside. Yeah, they they're they're like You're like, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:28

I gotta go like token the tree house. Take the edge. I gotta take the edge off.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

I gotta take the edge off, right? And I says tomato plant. Right, and it was like a little piece of a tomato plant.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:38

I love that. I where'd you get the lighter? You stole it? It was like a secret thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:44

No, I had easy access to a lighter at my grandparents' house.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

Oh, did you? Did you actually lit it?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:49

Yeah. Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:51

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:52

Do you know what it tasted like? Exactly what you would think it would taste like. Tomatoes. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:56

Tomatoes. I'm actually doing that now. That's so refreshing. Because like I want toasted tomatoes. Can we talk about though, like how smoking should be good for us? It really should.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:07

I like to pretend that it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:09

Like the thing is, is like everybody everyone I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

There's a difference between smoking. There's a difference between smoking and vaping, though.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:18

No, vaping is lame. I want the real deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

Do you want to hear my talking points on the way? I think smoking a cigar uh an analog cigarette. Right. Yeah. The OG is better than vape. One, people have been smoking like whatever since people were in wigwams. Okay. Like.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:37

Yeah. Back. I mean, I mean, and it was the long, like, classy shit. Like that's not wigwam time. No, no, no. No, no, no. Not like the holders. I'm talking like they were smoking like long, like, I thought it was underrounding. No, the 1920s. I'm saying it went from like the long pipes to the cla like when did it get so lame? When it became big business.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:02

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:03

And they start adding carcinogens.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:05

Right. Exactly. When capitalism took big tobacco. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed, but also.

Weird Childhood Stories And Smoking Talk

SPEAKER_05 1:04:13

I don't think. Or pipe art. We have an uncle that smokes a pipe, and like, I find that so I'm like I love the smell of pipe tobacco.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

Yes, he smokes pipe tobacco, and I'm like, Spatchcock, Hassleback, Cross Stitch, Golden Girls. And roll.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:31

And golden girls.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:32

And golden girls. And golden girls.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:34

All of it. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:35

You know the best part about a cigarette? Yes. That's different than a vape? Actually, I do know the best part of a cigarette. Describe the day. No, I'm just kidding. Um day and time. I'll be there. Um, there's an endpoint. With this vaping, you can do it while you're decorating your Christmas tree, while you're doing dishes. There's no endpoint.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:55

And there's no um like separation. Right. The thing with smoking a cigarette is you have to like step out of your world to do it. Right. It's like And vaping, you're like, oh, I can just do this like mindful into my sweatshirt. Right. Like, like it's it just feels like there's no mindfulness.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:15

It's like the scrolling culture of smoking.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:18

Of smoking. That's exactly what is exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:21

You mentioned the mindfulness, and it is very grounding. Like when you'll it's like when you smoke a menthol, you feel it go down. Like you feel the sensation.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:29

It's well, and it's like you're taught to breathe in, breathe out. We're really promoting something that's not good for us, you guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:36

No, but I also had asthma as a child.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:39

And you hear it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:41

No, and I think that because I was like on an inhaler and like all of that, like there was that like that world fixation.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:47

Yeah, give us your best, like, smoker lady voice.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:50

Oh, yeah, to close us out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We it's been two hours and one minute. Oh. And we're on week two. We can't go into week three.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:01

Thanks for listening to Sister Shit Podcast. We hope to see you all next week. You girls have a great weekend.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:20

See you next Tuesday.