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Murdaughs, Robots, + More Herpes Monkeys

Caroline Smith and Meredith Walker Season 2 Episode 12

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Hi S*sters! Caroline's back in town and it's time for a catch up— the herpes monkeys are becoming a regular character in our pop-culture review. Plus some unwarranted opinions on using tiktok to find dates, the new Murdaugh show, the new house cleaning robot and more. We can't wait to get into it.  


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Catch-Up, Lashes, And Pet Chaos

SPEAKER_00

Hello, welcome to Sistership. Happy Tuesday. We missed you guys. Caroline is alive and well and a little bit more tan. She's got lashes that are trying to crawl off of her face. These aren't from Mexico. They aren't? These were for Halloween. Oh. I thought they were hanging on from the wedding.

SPEAKER_01

No, Ma.

SPEAKER_00

She's looking like Isma.

SPEAKER_01

I've got to do like the everything shower today. You know, it's like one of those days where the lashes have to come off. Yeah. The lotion needs to go on. I hate putting on lotion. Ugh, me too. But it makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

I bought the one you have, and I don't think it's thick.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, which one? Not van a cream. Vanna cream. No, I don't like vanna cream. I switched from vanna cream. Jay loves vanacream.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like I'm giving myself wrinkles just putting it on.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think it's actually pretty good for you, but I have switched to the La Roche Posé. I love that brand. The bottle, the big bottle, and it you can put it on your face and your body.

SPEAKER_00

I have a little I have the little one of that, and I use it on my face every day. Get the big one. Okay. Yep. That's my new like I have it in my bathroom. I have it in my purse. Great. Get it for your body. Okay. Um yeah. So we are current. We're currently in our my bedroom. We're pet sitting my mom's chihuahuas. They're grooming each other.

SPEAKER_01

They're a they are a whole vibe.

SPEAKER_00

So if you hear barking, it's them. They're a whole vibe.

SPEAKER_01

They are literally just licking each other right now.

SPEAKER_00

With their eyes closed. They've got a really weird relationship.

SPEAKER_01

I think one of them is the mom, and they came from like a hoarder house, and they're oh gosh. Oh gosh. The mom just yawned and the kid put his put her tongue in her mouth.

SPEAKER_00

They're literally making out my ear. Anyway, that's our that's our setting right now. Um, we did have a puppy in here also. Yeah. We had to kick one out. I woke up at 6 a.m. To shit. To poop in the crate, poop on the dog, poop tracked around the house. I did not handle it well. I mean, who would? Who rather change 50 diapers today than do wake up to that?

SPEAKER_01

Well, and for a dog, it's a little bit like one of those things where you're like, seriously? Like, I've already done this for my kid. I don't want to do this for my dog.

Mexico Wedding And All-Inclusive Confessions

SPEAKER_00

So, like, why did you just poop in your crate? She was out. Y'all are gonna think I'm a neglectful mom, but let me tell you, she was out with us all night until like 10. Well, she was with you. She was with us outside till 10 p.m. We did all the regular things. She pooped in the crate and then she pooped again outside. Ugh, puppies. Puppies. That was a lot of information. So sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Um should I give you a quick rundown from Mexico?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It was fabulous.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I love that.

SPEAKER_01

Five-star resort, five-star review. Okay. Um, yeah. Beautiful wedding.

SPEAKER_00

It looked like you were all y'all were in like Fiji or something.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. It was insane. It was like the mountainside, like coastal mountainside of Mexico, and it was amazing. I've only ever been to Tijuana. Stark difference.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, I didn't realize that. I thought you'd been in other places in Mexico.

SPEAKER_01

Instanata and Tijuana. That's it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But I I love Mexico so much. I mean the food. I but you want to know something?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was really an all-inclusive girly. I feel kind of guilty about it. I mean, we might as well.

SPEAKER_00

When when in Rome?

SPEAKER_01

When in an all-inclusive. Yeah. They had the best chicken fingers I have ever had.

SPEAKER_00

Because you know what? I bet the amount of people that like the majority of people that go there are ordering chicken fingers.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm not a chicken finger bitch.

SPEAKER_00

So they're like, if we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this.

SPEAKER_01

Like, you know the people that like that's all they eat? That's not me. I know. I rarely order chicken fingers.

SPEAKER_00

I do love a chicken finger.

SPEAKER_01

They're so damn good. They're so good. Okay, so it was like the fajita chicken meat, but panko'd.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

And it came with a chipotle sauce.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'd be ordering that too.

SPEAKER_01

I ate it by the pool every single day.

SPEAKER_00

I want to do that. I can only look at your lashes right now. Oh gosh, should I peel them off? No, I feel like you need to use a cream. One is one is yeah, there we go. One better? That's the one I was looking at. It's off. Um well we have things to catch up on.

SPEAKER_01

We do. Also, wait, back to the wedding. Yes, for the wedding that I went to is like a childhood friend of our families. Meredith, we missed you so much.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but I was really mean to them as kids, though, so I don't I didn't deserve to go to the wedding, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she was mean. She would like, oh gosh, Jay's sending me shoe options. Oh, he's shocked then. Oh no. No. Resounding no. That's got a wedge heel. Where is he?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Did he go to freaking? He's on Harbison. That no, wouldn't where wouldn't Oh gosh. Sorry, guys. Crisis. This is a crisis. The first one was like a suede, a beautiful, actually, beautiful color brown suede. He's at the new Sierra store. But it has like a wedge heel. It's not awful. But it's not great. The second one is just a hiking boot.

SPEAKER_01

It looks like a girl boot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it does. When would he wear that?

SPEAKER_01

Mayor, I don't know. I don't know. Oh gosh. Okay, anyways. Um oh, I said these look like girl boots. He said they are. He's looking for that's nice. Oh my gosh, that makes me feel like that. That makes the wedge makes me feel so much better.

SPEAKER_00

Are you do you like you? No, I don't want either one, but I know Keith was at Best Buy yesterday and sent me a picture of a Keith Herring Lego set, and I said, That's so cool. Parentheses, I don't want this. You know? Yeah. Sometimes you've got to be like, I really appreciate the thought, but like, don't like I feel so loved, but like don't buy it because then I'm gonna be stressed that you spent money on it.

Neighborhood Cozy Night And Halloween Costumes

SPEAKER_01

I know. Um, anyways, okay, so the childhood friends went to the wedding. It was so much fun, and she is a listener. Yes. Hello, Sydney. And she we want her to come on the podcast. So she we talked about it a lot. She's an avid listener. What are we gonna discuss? She listens every week. I love that. Thanks, guys. I know. And so for being here.

SPEAKER_00

I think we're gonna have her and Ashton on the.

SPEAKER_01

It is, it is.

SPEAKER_00

But speaking of fireside chat, we had the coziest November 1st yesterday.

SPEAKER_01

We really oh my gosh, it was November 1st.

SPEAKER_00

That was perfect. I know. That's why I was like in such a great. I was like, it is officially fall. Yep. Like, Halloween is freaking over. I'm over. We were talking about how, like, in this day and age, by with when you have children, by the time you get to actual Halloween, you've been to so many other trick-or-treat events that you're like, why are we doing this again? I was like shocked my kids even wanted to dress up again because they've been dressing up all week. Sam hadn't.

SPEAKER_01

Luckily, we kind of skipped all to skip them. Because he had a fall festival at his school, and I feel bad, but we were like, no, I'm gonna go back to the couple of things.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so anyway, that's over. We had a fire. Keith got a new Blackstone grill, so he grilled Smash Burgers. We had the paper to wrap around the Smash Burgers. It was we hung up a sheet, we watched the Carolina game that was. It was bad. But it was just so cozy. Fire. Hot tea, hot tea, gummy, wine.

SPEAKER_01

It was great. It was great. Now we do need to quickly touch on our costumes. Wha oh yes. Because they will reappear. Yeah. We were Ryan and Sharpay for Halloween. Yeah. Um, nobody guessed it right except for our one friend who also listens to the podcast. He at the very end of the night goes, and let's preface, he's gay. So that's like maybe the only reason he knew who we were. And he's of the age. Yeah. Because he's my age. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

We were kind of we're kind of in a weird in-between age in the neighborhood, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And so he was like at the very end of the night after nobody had known who we were all night. People kept guessing I was Taylor Swift. I said, um, no, no, no. Sharpe ran so that Taylor could walk.

SPEAKER_00

Is that right? Is that how it goes? The first one walks and the second can run. But in this case, accurate. I love that inadvertent dig. Okay. No, Sharpa ran so Taylor could walk. Sharpay was running. She was. She was running at hyper speed. Yeah, she was.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Ryan is the unsung hero of the whole movie. I love that.

SPEAKER_01

We watched that yesterday as a part of our fall day. Yes. We watched that and did a gem craft. It was lovely. Okay, so, anyways, at the very end of the night, our friend Luis goes, All night, I've just been thinking that you're the little gay boy from high school musical. And Meredith was like, I am.

SPEAKER_00

I was, and I I just really got the short end of the stick in that costume duo.

SPEAKER_01

You chose it. You literally said that.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't think you gave it to me. I'm just saying I got dressed and I thought I just want to remind you that.

SPEAKER_01

I let's be Ryan and Sharpay. I call Ryan. I've been dying to wear a male wig.

SPEAKER_00

Did I say that? You literally said that. I didn't even get a wig. I know, you just look like that. I looked like a newsie that time traveled.

SPEAKER_01

A gay newsie.

SPEAKER_00

A gay newsie. Well. Oh well gosh, we could talk about Christian Bale in that movie for days. Yeah. I loved Tim.

SPEAKER_01

Newsies weren't really my thing, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, did you have to watch it?

SPEAKER_01

No, I just watched it whenever we did it in CYC and was like, Oh, Caroline.

SPEAKER_00

I know I need to watch it. Watch it again. Okay. I was like preteen when we did that. And so it was really doing things for me.

SPEAKER_01

I've got a musical boy. My son loves a musical. So I've seen newsies? No, we he hasn't, but we just said yesterday that we're gonna like make a list of musicals that we need to watch. So I'll add that one too. I'll be coming to that showing.

SPEAKER_00

Um okay. Okay, we have things to discuss. They're not important. Shocker. Wait, this one is kind of important. We gotta talk about the monkeys again.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. The monkeys. The monkeys are back and they have herpes again. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Did the herpes ever go away?

SPEAKER_01

I I don't know. What are they doing? I don't know, but they're apparently like angry. They're aggressive. They're having herpes break out.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. They've got their diseased, angry monkeys. There is they're gone. Where are they? I never followed up on that story.

SPEAKER_01

Aren't they in like Louisiana?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but there's trapped again? I I don't know. I don't think the monkeys are okay.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's kind of like upsetting.

SPEAKER_00

It is upsetting.

SPEAKER_01

They need to get up to handle on this. I'm like, this was the 80s that they broke out with herpes. It is now 2025 and they are have herpes.

SPEAKER_00

I think they're giving the monkeys diseases so they can study the chicken. Oh, I don't like that. I don't like that. I mean that that's what they're doing, I think. That's how they do vaccines. Oh, these monkeys. I know. I know. It is upsetting. But honestly. Like, why can't they do it online? They've been in the news three times in the past year. I know. It's it's kind of like I think Planet of the Apes is coming. No, no, I think they need to get I think they're about to get shut down.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I I'm I'm taking this in a secret life of Where is the government funding at this point? Are they part of the shutdown? Are these monkeys gonna have food? Good question. Because isn't it Remember, there's part federal. It is part federal. That's a great question. I don't know what I don't know. The shutdown.

SPEAKER_01

We don't need to get into that.

SPEAKER_00

Um I okay, so the monkeys monkeys are back. Monkeys are back, monkeys are back in pop culture, monkeys are back with herpes. And angry. And angry.

SPEAKER_01

Which like I would be angry too. I know.

SPEAKER_00

I know. To have an uncured case of herpes. Yeah, I'm like, is that who are they doing herpes research on these monkeys? If they're not, something's going on. If they're not, they need to be. Because they've got a problem that needs to be solved. Oh god. They have to be doing herpes research. I don't know. Okay. Anyway, next order of business. Um we are deep in cringe TikTok. Specifically have been for years. Well, and Instagram. Specifically, the kind of cringe TikTok slash Instagram of like try hard men. Yes. Um, there is this trend I sent to our sister shit to Instagram and I said, need to discuss. It is this trend I'm seeing where like mid to late 20-year-old men are like filming themselves in the streets, and they're like, hey, I need a date to this wedding. Who's gonna go with me? Yeah. How do we how do you think? What do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_01

Hell no.

SPEAKER_00

It's weird, right?

SPEAKER_01

Go find a girl and ask her.

SPEAKER_00

Is it clickbait?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think so. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think girls are like, I'll go?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I do too.

SPEAKER_01

There's gotta be people out there that are totally fine with the indecency that's happening. But I am just like, this is absurd. It's annoying. Grow a pair, meet a girl, and ask her to go to the wedding with you.

SPEAKER_00

I know actually, again, our childhood friends Ashton and Sydney. Ashton was telling us recently that he like asked a girl out on the parking lot of a grocery store, and I was like, good for you.

SPEAKER_01

We had this conversation at the wedding, and he was saying that like that is he's like, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Is that a dying art?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't think it's I don't think for everyone, but he was just saying, like, I am 30 now. I'm not like going to be heartbroken if a girl says she's not interested. Like, just shooting a shot. Yes, shoot your shot. Yeah. In real life. Yes. And Jay has always said, because Jay and I and Marin Keith, we all started dating before online dating was even a thing. So we really can't speak on the topic because we don't get it. No, we don't. But Jay has always said to my friends that are in that world, like, just go to a Barnes and Noble. Open up a book. Wait for somebody to come find you. Go to the he well, he thinks the mall is like girls in seventh grade. So he's like he's like, go to, you know, the coffee shop. Go to the library. Find someone reading a book you're into.

SPEAKER_00

If Jay was single right now, he'd be the guy that would be like performative reading in a coffee shop.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. He doesn't do much performative about anything. That's true. He like Yeah, he's not a performative person. He's like I am going to do the least, and whoever appreciates it, I'm, you know? Yeah. And here I am. I know. I love that you guys found each other. I know. So, but yeah, I there's one specific person, which if you guys don't know him, his name's Cam. He lived in Nashville.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

And was he like the guy that laughs at everything. Yeah. And like no one knows what he's laughing at. Yeah. Like he'll go to the barber and just like videotape himself laughing the whole time. While he's getting his hair cut. Yes. And everyone's like, what the hell is so funny, Cam?

SPEAKER_00

But he's like a TikToker.

SPEAKER_01

He is, but he like moved to Charleston, and we're all like, oh my gosh. Cam's in Charleston. Cam's in Charleston, and we've been like following his journey. Well, what how many months in? A month?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, who knows what really happened, you know, but on from what we saw, he lived there for like a month and then moved back.

SPEAKER_01

Then he was like back in Nashville, but all of his content is like referring to his future wife.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's like I'm gonna take my future wife to church and this is what I'm gonna wear.

SPEAKER_01

It is the most delusional shit I've ever been.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm like, I I'm kind of like at this point, go meet someone. Yes, he's a good looking guy. He is a good looking guy.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, stop laughing in front of the camera and go meet someone. Laugh at a bar.

SPEAKER_00

At this point, if a girl is into it, like if I dated him, if I went on a date with him and then found out, like found his Instagram. Oh, it's over. It's over. It's over. Right? I mean, but the people's gonna have to find a girl that's doing these same things on Instagram so they can like merge their Instagram stories. And I think that happens.

SPEAKER_01

I I mean, if anything, do it for the clout. I know. Because people would be in a few years. Cloud.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I know.

SPEAKER_01

He's not he's not doing his full potential.

SPEAKER_00

I just saw something else that was really cringy on on one of the one of them. And this guy was like, I went on a date with this girl, and then after we went on the date, I f I like came across her TikTok, and apparently she's been like going on dates and then telling about them in detail. Yeah, I just went into detail about mine, and like what went bad and what went good. But then she was like, But now I'm doing the same thing because now I'm on TikTok talking about how my date went with her, and I was just like, get alive alive. Like I was like, I watched the whole damn thing, that's the problem. But I'm just like, yo, I know what is real anymore? What are we talking about?

AI Bamboozles, Home Robots, And Tech Anxiety

SPEAKER_01

I feel that way about a lot. Like, we were talking about the Terry video last night, back it up, Terry, where he about gets shot blasted off in outer space in his wheelchair. And I was just like, now that is comedy. I know that is comedy. Now, every time I watch a video, my first question is, is this real?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I have I have a confession, Caroline. Oh, comedy. I've been bamboozled like three times this week by AI. Oh, I those bunnies on the trampoline. No, I got bamboozled bamboozled by the retirement community that was sharing their Halloween costumes. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01

Everyone was I think everyone was bamboozled by that. Did you see it? I did see it and I thought not interested. So I didn't watch it. I watched the first costume and was like, that's not funny. Yeah. And then um Do better.

unknown

Do better.

SPEAKER_01

And then um I heard someone else saying that their boomer mom sent it to them and they were like, This is AI, and I was like, oh, it was AI. But I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I wasn't like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen, and wasn't telling my friends about it, but I like watched it being like, that's cute. But I did think like, who is this person interviewing them? Does she work there? I did have like questions, but then I was like, whatever. It's getting like too. But I just started following an account that how to teach how to detect it. Please send it to mom and dad. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Please I need it too. I know, I do too. But I mean, think about it. We we are kind of like the nuances are they're it's nuanced.

SPEAKER_00

It's getting too wild. Like it's like you gotta really be looking. I know. I hate it. I hate it. I I hate it. Also, Rob, our friend that was over last night, was telling, or maybe Jay knew about it too, but the robot that lives in your house is$20,000.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, Jay was looking into it. Um, and he he had brought it up to me that morning because he was like, I found a solution to keep our house clean, ha ha. And I was like, no, I've seen that movie before. I'm not I'm good. I'll hire a person if I'm if I get desperate. This robot is$20,000 and it's like in beta, so it like doesn't really know what it's doing.

SPEAKER_00

They like need people to use it in their real houses so they can make it better. Perfect it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But apparently, like if they should be paying people to do that. I agree. Because how do you know that this robot is not gonna stab you in your sleep and think that you're a steak?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know. And that's like my friend has a smart refrigerator that every time you put something in it, it's like keeps a grocery list. And every time she puts her opens it and like puts something in, it tags her hand as a meat. Oh, yeah. And so there's like 20 pictures of her hands on her smart fridge that just says like meat, meet, meet, meet, meet, meat, and it's all like her hand.

SPEAKER_01

Ew.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_01

And how do you know the robot isn't gonna try to cut you up and cook you? I know, and then feed it for or serve it for dinner.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_01

And Rob was saying that if the robot doesn't know how to do something, it'll just stop, and then a human logs in and like controls the robot to do what you're asking. I do very, very forward to these updates. I know, but it ain't gonna be me. I'm sorry. I'm not trusting enough of technology. If I had$20,000, I don't think that'd be would be what I'd spend. No, I'm going on vacations.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But um I what was I gonna say? Something about AI. Oh. Andrew Yang. Yes. He just posted something.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think he's gonna run again?

SPEAKER_01

No, I think he's I mean, he I I just I don't think he can.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think he has enough like momentum or following. But he just posted a reel being like people telling me that I was crazy and like showing headlines of when he was running about warning against robots taking over and like AI jobs. And then he was like the headlines now, and it was like AI is taking over and everyone's losing jobs. And I'm like, God. And that was like what four years? Not even four years ago. Yes. I know. We tried, we tried, Andrew. We tried. I know. Yeah, it's very ew. We're just peeling. Y'all are so gross. Peeled a toenail off and set it in between us. You're put it next to my eyelashes.

SPEAKER_00

Put it in front of me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but anyways, so that leads into our next topic.

SPEAKER_00

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_01

Which, no, AI doesn't, but like the Charleston stuff.

SPEAKER_00

So I thought you meant my toenail. No.

SPEAKER_01

No, we're skipping over that. But the Charleston topic of like Charleston boys.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

Charleston Boys And The Murdoch Series Deep Dive

SPEAKER_01

So we've been watching the Murdoch show. Yeah. If y'all have not watched it on Hulu, it is so good.

SPEAKER_00

It's really good. Like I look forward to watching it every week.

SPEAKER_01

Me too. And I just we talk about it being cast so well. Like it honestly is like really hard to watch, knowing the story, because you feel like you're seeing it like in actual in like reality. Yeah. It's bizarre.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's obviously they had to fictionalize like conversations and things like things like that.

SPEAKER_01

But I do and the Gloria, like the timeline is off. Like Gloria passed away before the boat crash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I thought I just think the character, like they just do a really, really good job of like fleshing out the characters.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Especially Paul.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, because I mean, we grew up in Beaufort, so I didn't know them by any means, but it was kind of a known thing, like that the Murdochs are like powerful and corrupt and correct. Don't mess with them, blah, blah, blah. That was kind of a known thing. And I knew of rumors about Paul just like from being in that area of like.

SPEAKER_00

And y'all were the same age, right?

SPEAKER_01

No, he's younger. He's like Reese's age.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_01

And so no, you I like knew rumors about him, and their rumors. Who knows what's true and what's not true. But like everyone just knew him as a total, total shithead. Like an evil piece of poop. Yeah. And it's interesting watching the show and kind of seeing him like fighting his demons. And like seeing like what he was raised in because you're able to be like, this is a product of like what. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I just think it shows I just I love, I mean, I think all people do, but I love storytelling that like where each character is like dimensional. Yes. And I think up until this point, we've only known Paul's worst like worst. Yes. And I think and I think it was hard to like hear from his best friend who was dating Mallory, like that he ultimately like forgives him. Yeah. And it's like and but you I don't know, I just feel like you get a real sense of like relationships are dimensional. Yeah. And like you can't take a story as like face value. And I I thought they just I've been wondering if like Keith was like, I wonder what Buster thinks about this if he's watching it. Because I do feel like I mean I'm sure I don't know that I'd be able to watch something if it's about my family, but I it is crazy that he's the only one left. Like it is really crazy. I thought they painted him in like an interesting and like compassionate. I do too. And the mom, like I feel like you were like a lot of people. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I thought the mom was like not a good person, just based on like based on rumors and stories and things. I you know, you always hear everyone in that family. Judge people by their association. Yes, and you're like, he's she's married to him, blah blah blah. But watching the story, you're really I think you're just able to have more compassion. And Buster just got married at the same place Meredith and I both got married. It's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00

But we um Oh, I feel like the only like the villain in the story is obviously like the dead. He's the only one you kind of see you kind of see his struggle with his dad, like, and understand like how he's also stuck in this kind of like expectation and like family like legacy, which is like this like dark secret of family legacy. But at the end of the day, he's like kind of the only character that you're like you're the bad guy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, and not to say that like the whole story isn't horrific and you're like this family is effed. Like, yeah, I don't think it changes what has been done, and you know, but you it is interesting seeing the dimension of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think they handled it very like care, uh like with a lot of care.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Well, and it's interesting because the what's her name, Matney. I can't remember the journalist that like did it all. Like, she it's it's been interesting to see kind of how that started for her too.

SPEAKER_00

I know. Which Britney Snow, I always think about how she was married to the guy on selling the OC. Oh, I didn't know that. They divorced in season like in season one, he had just gotten divorced from her. Oh. Had been watching the new selling sunset.

SPEAKER_01

No, Mare, you I uh I am we've already talked about how I can't do TV stuff right now. I'm watching the Murdochs and that's what I'm watching.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and Katie, our cousin Katie would kill us if we talked about our reality TV schedule again.

SPEAKER_01

What did she say it was similar to we're talking about like hairstyle or our dentist person talking our ears off in that episode, and she messaged us and was like, I had a dent dental hygienist that literally walked me through her entire reality TV schedule one time, and I was just stuck there, and then the next episode we literally walked through our reality TV schedule.

SPEAKER_00

We won't do that again, but we do have an apology to make because since we last recorded our cutco, the timing was so funny. It was hilarious. Because since we last recorded our cutco story, he was our cutco guy was active. Yeah, I'm so sorry. And he reached out to every single person whose name we put down within a matter like we got texts within five minutes, like from like fit like 15 people being like the cut-co guy's calling me.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Like, and like called people twice and then texted them. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I huge apologies, everyone. But just know that like when we gave out your numbers, we were sitting around a table with him standing over our shoulders, and there were knives all over the table. We did not feel like we had a choice.

SPEAKER_00

No, those knives were not clean. Um gosh, I just cannot get over how disheveled those knives were. I know. His presentation was everywhere, dirty knives, dirty knives everywhere, and the backpack just on the floor floor, just wide open with loose knives. Yeah. Loose knives. They had covers on them, but my god paper covers. Yeah, paper covers. Okay, anyway, we don't need to get back into that. Um what what else were we gonna talk about today? I don't know. We just said it and we forgot. Jonas Brothers.

Niche Drama: TikTok Scams And Online Personas

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you're going to Jonas Brothers this week. I am. I'm going to see the Jonas Brothers this year. For the how many times? How many? Fifth time? Okay. Fifth, I think. Okay. What are you gonna wear? I don't know what I'm wearing yet, but we have Sim's outfit picked out. That was Sim's surprise for his birthday. Um, he picked out his own outfit. He's going to look very cool. He got a shirt with the Jonas Brothers holding ferrets. Yeah, it's like uh it's like a JC Penny photo shoot picture. That they did like they, I think, did. Okay. And they're like, they just look really weird and they're holding ferrets. And Sim like thought it was hilarious. I love that. So he's gonna be looking very cool. Jay has to keep reminding me that it's not about whatever what does he mean?

SPEAKER_00

Like, why would he say listen?

SPEAKER_01

Just remember, this is night is for Sim. It was Sim's birthday present.

SPEAKER_00

What are you doing that makes him say that?

SPEAKER_01

Well, he's just like, if he is ready to go home, we're gonna have to go home.

SPEAKER_00

You think you you need to be like, Jay, this night is not about you. Yeah. Do you are you planning on going home?

SPEAKER_01

I don't even know why he bought tickets, but he said it's so that he can go get us snacks and merch.

SPEAKER_00

Which is very nice. It is very sweet.

SPEAKER_01

And he also said, I think I already said this in another episode, so that I don't go home with Joe.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um Yeah, I I don't know what I'm wearing. Probably one of the past shirts. Okay. Maybe a little skirt or some jeans.

SPEAKER_00

Where are y'all seats?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. He did all of it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. That's it.

SPEAKER_01

I did all of it. And he can't remember where this is.

SPEAKER_00

You should dress like you did in middle school.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Like a little like ub boots and like a little mini mini skirt. Skirt, four tank tops.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I guess that wasn't middle school, but like, yeah, do like a hollister look.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Caroline had a side combover in high school that is unlike anything.

SPEAKER_01

It was honestly like when I did my Sharpe bangs for Halloween, it was literally muscle memory.

SPEAKER_00

There was like an in- it was the Heart started like an inch above her ear.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I wanted them to look like they were bangs, but I didn't want to commit to cutting bangs.

SPEAKER_00

That's a wild choice.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it was like I think email. It was very in style, yeah. But I didn't know what I was doing, so they looked like that. I don't think anyone did.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think anyone did. Yeah. A lot of people were doing that. Yeah. I missed that era. Or maybe I just wasn't in that.

SPEAKER_01

It was like Tumblry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Did you have a Tumblr?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but like not I didn't use it correctly. Or was it that often? I don't could not even tell you. I never posted or anything. I just like stalked emo girl's hair. The Tumblr girl was a real thing. Like I would like look up sad quotes and stuff and like Yeah. Does Tumblr even exist?

SPEAKER_00

I don't I think so.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like Reddit is kind of like Tumblr-ish without pictures. Which I love Reddit, which we've talked about this before for like random drama.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And speaking of which, I sent Meredith this video recently on Instagram of like this guy with light up finger gloves on. Oh yes. From like the DM rave community. And he was like ranting about how like the people that are doing fingering, what is it called? It's not fingering, but what is it called?

SPEAKER_00

It's called something like I don't know, light fingers. I have no idea. Gloving? I think it's gloving. Which also sounds medical or sexual.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Or like medically sexual.

SPEAKER_01

So he was like up in arms about people gloving incorrectly and giving people like bad trips.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And he's like, if you're doing that, you need to get off the picture.

SPEAKER_00

Like you probably have black gloves on. And they're probably from Amazon.

SPEAKER_01

And like it was the.

SPEAKER_00

You know what it reminded me of? Mermaids. Yes. But her tail is from Amaz. Like it was like give like. And so one of the first comments was, gosh, I love finding like niche community drama. And I do too. Wait, so what are you following on Instagram? I'm on TikTok. No one on Reddit.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I told you the bath the bomb party drama. And then also the Eight Passenger Snark page, which turned like really dark. Yeah. And then I also have a Bathfill drama.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I've done a little bit of that. There was one on TikTok recently that I was like, ooh, this is gonna be good. I was like, basically though, like, let me know when the next flip Netflix documentary comes out, but this girl's been faking her pregnancy. Oh. Have you seen that? Like up until I don't know, I don't I don't know enough details, but I just thought I'm gonna bookmark this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I just bookmarked one too about a girl who's a con artist.

SPEAKER_00

I love that.

SPEAKER_01

Living in the Florida area.

SPEAKER_00

What's she doing?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I found her first from this this these two girls that were like, we got like bamboozled by this bitch who literally like moved in with us over the weekend and said that she just needed a place to stay for the weekend and then like didn't move out and was like stealing our money and blah blah blah blah. It started there, and then everyone in the comments were like, How have you not like how did you not know to be like wary of this girl from this video segment? I go to her husband, her ex-husband's TikTok. Hundred it's like the Risa Tisa thing, but it's of this guy like talking about Risa Tisa. I know. It's like this guy talking like hundreds of videos from the very beginning talking about this con artist. This woman was like pretending to be his lawyer. And the guy's like, I don't want to victim blame, but I'm also like dumb. You dumbass. Dummy, dum dum. Yeah. Why did you not meet your lawyer in person? Oh, yeah. Like that kind of stuff. There were signs. But he she was pretending to be like eight different people to her husband. And like his business is.

SPEAKER_00

Well, they were married?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And was she like pretending to be someone else, or she was like, I'm your wife, and also I'm a lawyer, and also I'm no no.

SPEAKER_01

She'd be like, Oh, I have a friend who's a lawyer. Here's her number.

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. That's crazy. It was crazy. It was I need to find it. I bookmarked it because I was like, Please send that to me. It's like to dedicate like a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00

Like it's really again like let me know when the documentary comes out, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Uh uh condense this into two hours and then I'll watch it and be done. Yeah. But yeah. That's interesting. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I forgot about Risa Tisa.

SPEAKER_01

And there's another girl on TikTok too, like this is another really random one, and then I'll shut up about it. But who's they're like these this Florida boater couple, and she's got big old fake boots. Okay. And they go boating and they love to do poker runs on the boat, and like all this. I don't, it's like a poker game that you do on a boat and you stop at different docks, and like it's yeah. So she um they were like this they're like this Florida boating couple on Instagram. Well, they're they have followers, people like them, all this stuff. Then comes out, he's a pedophile. Oh a certifiable, locked up, detained, currently pedophile. Like he went to jail.

SPEAKER_00

So and they're still posting con she's still posting content like he's not.

SPEAKER_01

No, she she won't address it, and she's like, She's just I chose him and I knew about what was going on, and I know him better than anybody else. Like, like defending his ass.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, oh, that's rough.

SPEAKER_01

It's real rough. And I so sometimes I go back and check in on them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, how are they doing? Is he in for life?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. There's a girl that like breaks down his sentence and stuff, but I didn't get into it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a lot.

Nostalgia, Jonas Brothers, And Tumblr Memories

SPEAKER_01

And then like I found them because that mama tot lady popped up.

SPEAKER_00

No idea.

SPEAKER_01

She's this lady. I don't know. She's famous on TikTok and she just like pretends she's everyone's mom and like loves them and stuff, but like turns out she's also a bitch.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I have a theory about this.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Anyone who is known for being the nicest person, like, not anyone, but I just feel like it happens a lot where like with Ellen, her whole thing was being being the nice person, and it turns out that she's like very much not a nice person.

SPEAKER_01

Now, do you think that it's because like she's probably like an average amount of not nice, but because her whole thing is being known to be a nice person that like her things that she does that aren't nice are like amplified.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's maybe just like the hypocrisy of it of like you can't build an entire empire on being nice and then have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00

When you're not nice to the people who work for you, and like when it comes like, you know, her whole thing is like bringing these people from like small USA towns to like have their Hollywood moment and but like behind the scenes treats them like dirt. Yeah, like interesting. It's like I but I think that's true that like I think we have different expectations for people who like I mean, yeah, it's like you're if you're selling yourself as this nice person, you gotta like walk the walk. Yes, you know, whereas like someone who's just a comedian and isn't doing all these like good-natured things. We don't expect I don't know. I d I think there is a certain amount of grace that can be given, but I think there's also like you just have to be careful, like how you smark at yourself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know details on Mama Top, but people were like up in arms about her too, which her son like randomly got shot. She's I I stalked her a long time ago. But anyways, it's similar where like she's like super nice on TikTok, everyone loves her, and then it comes out. I mean, she's kind of like also just in on all the drama. She like takes a stance on all TikTok drama. I feel like her page has kind of like changed from like being this like nice mom person to like just giving a lot of opinions, interesting. Which is fine, but interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm gonna have to deep dive on those people too.

SPEAKER_01

I know. It's one of those things where I'm like, is this worth my time? Probably not.

SPEAKER_00

No, definitely not. You know, but we're here talking about it.

SPEAKER_01

I know, here we are.

SPEAKER_00

And on that note, I guess we can be done.

SPEAKER_01

Happy Tuesday, everyone. Yeah, happy Tuesday. We missed y'all last week. Yeah. We're hoping to have some guests soon.

Online “Nice” Personas And Public Backlash

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Yeah, if there's any topics you guys want to discuss, let us know.

SPEAKER_01

Because at this point, we just be talking.

SPEAKER_00

I know, we do be talking. Okay. We do be talking. See you next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday.