Sister Sh*t

F, Marry, Kill, Skin suit

Caroline Smith and Meredith Walker Season 2 Episode 2

What happens when beauty standards expand and shrink at the same time? We’re in a strange moment: representation is broader than ever, yet so many people still chase the same “Instagram face.” That contradiction kicks off our conversation on modern beauty culture and the mixed messages we all absorb.

We also look at how our ideas about aging have shifted. The Golden Girls were in their early 50s and seen as elderly, while today’s 40-somethings are living middle age in a completely different way. With cosmetic procedures becoming nearly undetectable, the line between natural and enhanced looks feels blurrier than ever.

On the lighter side, we rank male celebrities using the viral “Bear, Eagle, Dog, Reptile, Rat” system (Jeremy Allen White is firmly in rat territory). From Danny DeVito to Pedro Pascal, we debate the categories, talk PR-driven celebrity relationships, and even revisit the “Did Harry Styles spit on Chris Pine?” saga.

It’s a mix of fun and food for thought on what attractiveness means right now.

Follow us on socials at @sistershitpodcast ;)

Speaker 2:

Hello, hi, welcome to Sister Shit, season 2, episode 2. Hello, we're so happy to be here. We are. I'm Caroline, I'm Meredith. What are we talking about tonight? What are we talking about tonight, tonight, today, okay, today we're talking about beauty standards. Okay, can't wait. Because I find them very befuddling.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Like. It's a weird time to live in right now, because I think we're getting lots of mixed messages. Yes, on one hand we're being told I mean on one hand, I think the beauty standards have become more diverse in terms of like we're accepting beauty more so at like, all ages. Yeah, and like more different types of people are more widely represented in the media. Yeah, I mean not completely, but like it's better than it was when we were growing up. Yeah, but at the on the flip side of things, everyone has the same freaking face.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, like everyone has the same freaking face and I feel like everyone used to just look like Kim Kardashian, and now everyone's looking like Margot Robbie.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's all just merged into one face. Yeah, it's bizarre and like plastic surgery is getting better and better and better, to where people can get like extreme work done. I think I feel like when we were growing up, if someone was getting like going under the knife, it was like a noticeable noticeable, and maybe I just think that like that area of medicine or cert I don't know what you call medicine but like I just feel like people are getting so good at their jobs, yeah, that, and there's like more methods of doing. Anyway, I just I'm thinking of Emma Stone. I'm thinking of Emma Stone.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking of Emma Stone. She just had, like, some kind of facelift.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I don't know about this and like Kim, I'm Kim.

Speaker 2:

Kris. Kris Kardashian looks, yes, like younger than her daughters. Yeah, I feel like they're all going to the same. And Anne Hathaway? Oh, I haven't seen Anne Hathaway. She looks absolutely stunning, stunning. So does Emma, and it's like it just feels befuddling is the perfect word because it feels like whoa, she's beautiful and that's great, but does she still look like herself? Maybe, I don't know. It just feels like we're losing sense of like what people actually look like. Yeah, and it's becoming so normal. I know I feel like Pamela Anderson recently has been doing her like no makeup thing. I know, losing sense of like what people actually look like. Yeah, and it's becoming so normal. I know I feel like pamela anderson recently has been doing her like no makeup thing. I know she's like I want to see what I actually look like like. I want to know what I actually look like at this age I know, and that's super refreshing.

Speaker 2:

But at the same time, when the standards are so high on the opposite end of the spectrum, it's hard to know where to land. Well, and that brings me to my second point. Okay of I, I, like I'm seeing, I love pamela anderson so much. Her documentary I watched like the fictional, the biopic about her, and then I watched her like pamela anderson, a love story or whatever yeah, yeah that she produced I I have so much respect for her. I think she's like such a genuinely kind, loving person. Have you watched?

Speaker 1:

it. No, I don't know much about her at all. It made me just be like, wow, but I remember your phase of being obsessed with her.

Speaker 2:

I just think she is who she is yeah, she's just a beautiful person. Can I get a snack? Yeah, something healthy. I just a beautiful person. Can I get a snack? Yeah, something healthy. I just, I don't know. Anyway, that's an aside. I love her, but it brings me to my point of like oh, I follow her, so I feel like I continue to see older women that are like 60 plus and on Instagram and they're like fashionable and skincare. Which I will say I love that so much. Sorry, am I cutting yourself?

Speaker 1:

off.

Speaker 2:

No, no no, keep going, Because I think about the Golden Girls frequently. Yes, like love that show. How they were like Love the Golden Girls.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

They were not old.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Weren't they like 60? Yes, Push in 70, maybe no. I think they were younger than that.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Yes, mare, I think so, even the little one. She's the youngest. I have a confession I never watched it.

Speaker 1:

I know, mare, it's so good. I know it was my pregnancy show. I didn't need to watch it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, golden Girls ages Okay, yeah, the oldest was 63. They were in their. Blanche was the youngest. She was 51, 51. Yes, caroline, yeah, the golden girls.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, did betty white was 63? Did we think that that was old back then? Or were they made to play older women? I genuinely I don't know, but I think I don't think so. Wait, I'm so excited we're talking about this. I have so much to say because, before I get back to my other point, I did read something recently about how women like 40 is like a totally different thing than it used to be, like they've done. I don't remember what it was, but I guess they like, did question like a lot of women and they did like a I don't. I don't know if you call it a study they did like a poll. They did a poll of like, people's impressions of like and experiences being 40, and now people perceive 40 to be like much younger and much more like. I don't know if like lively is the word, but like back when we were growing up, 40 was like. It was like. You know. Quote unquote over the hill Gosh.

Speaker 2:

That was like you know your middle midlife. You're like hanging up the what's the?

Speaker 1:

expression your towel. Yeah, is that it.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was going to say too. Hanging up your towel, Is that it? I don't know? That's what I was going to say too. Hanging up your boots. Hanging up your Throwing in the towel. Throwing in the towel Hanging up your hat? Yes, so anyway. But so 40 is different now. 40 is now the age where women are like embracing who they are it's? Like living your best life, and I every 40, 40 year old person I know- is very much in the second category.

Speaker 2:

They're like I'm beautiful, I'm young, like it's, I have more money.

Speaker 1:

I have more money. My kids are older and more independent, like I do think or like they don't even have kids yet.

Speaker 2:

It's like much. You know. It's like 40 is much younger than it used to be yeah, that's true, so I wonder if, when they were filming the golden girls, it was like it was easier to think that 50 was golden? Yeah, because 40 is over the hill. But you know, like I look back at our parents a or like time and I like think all the time of mom being like, oh people, my age can't have long hair yes, and people my age can't wear shorts and they have their hair done up in rollers every week.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I know it's so weird. It's like they literally were like oh, I'm over the age of 35, I have to be frumpy now.

Speaker 1:

I know and it's so refreshing to see older like.

Speaker 2:

I follow several older people that are influencers that like are so refreshing. I know it is refreshing, okay. My point, though, is so there's one person in particular that comes up on my um feed. I don't follow her, but she like keeps getting served me because I do a deep dive every time. She's like I'm 60 and I dress this is how I dress and she's like long and lanky, beautiful, but it's like kind of clickbait, I think, like rage baity, because she like wears, she does all these stage things where she's like walking by construction workers and they're like oogling her and it's like oogling her and it's like all just like very staged, interesting, but it's like people and she's yeah, like I said, like ex-model, probably Beautiful, okay, and she's like she's like walking past these construction workers and being like okay now.

Speaker 2:

I think so act like I'm I don't remember her name, but anyway she so but there's like skincare routines that are like do this, if you want to look like this and I'm like girl, I will never.

Speaker 1:

I have never looked like you.

Speaker 2:

Like no amount of skincare will help me look like you. I'm like tired of gorgeous people being like do my skincare routine.

Speaker 1:

I'm like what's the point? Nothing will make me look like you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not gonna look like you? No, I know yeah but. I just feel I feel constantly hung in the balance of like embracing my age, knowing what I'm gonna look like, like embracing like what I will look like later, with no work done, and and then being like feeling like very empowered and unable to get work done if I want to.

Speaker 1:

Like I, have no strong opinions either way, but I do think that's the best place to be in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like it doesn't matter what you do.

Speaker 1:

Do whatever you want.

Speaker 2:

I know, and I think about it too, like having girls Just don't get Instagram face no, I could, never, I don't have the money for it, but I just I do think about having girls. Like what? How? The beauty, like the beauty standard has broadened and changed, but then are we narrowing it again. Like is it?

Speaker 2:

it's like doing, it's doing two things at once it's like narrowing it down so much to like all having the same face. But then there's, like this facial balancing thing that I keep getting. Like lots of the people who were just doing botox three years ago, we're now doing like facial balancing, which is basically like using filler and, uh, botox to like so everyone can be symmetrical, and I do feel like they just make people look a little like, look like themselves, but a little more like balanced Okay, hence the name. Yes, but it's not, but I don't know. Anyway, I just I think about it all the time.

Speaker 2:

Because it's constantly served to me, Like I just feel like I'm like constantly scrolling and seeing all these different standards and being very confused. Maybe I just need to get off of Instagram. Yeah, how many times have I said that on this podcast? I know, I know. I do think it is a dangerous place. I think you can easily fall into this pit of like I'm not good enough, I'm not doing enough. I mean seriously, I will be like with anything. I'm like. Oh, I'm not.

Speaker 1:

My house is not up to standards 't it?

Speaker 2:

Comparison is a thief of joy, I know, and also I get really. I think we've talked about clean talk before we have, and I love clean talk. I watch it anytime I need to eat from my house. I like watch it to motivate myself, just because it's like very satisfying. You like see the results. But I was watching it I think it was yesterday and I watched like four to six different people doing home resets. Uh-huh, I couldn't even tell who was who, because all of their houses looked exactly the same. Their sheets were the same, their decor was very similar. Really, I mean, they all had striped sheets with a white duvet. I mean it was creepy because I was like, oh, I've already watched this. Wait, no, I haven't, this is a different person. That happened to me three times. It's weird. And I was like wait this person.

Speaker 1:

I bet they're all getting deals from the same it's creepy, yeah, it's so creepy, it's very.

Speaker 2:

keith the other day asked me actually our whole, I mean the world would collapse Like our whole, our governments and our economy.

Speaker 1:

I mean literally. Everything is on the internet.

Speaker 2:

It's like it would like it wouldn't actually be feasible, we're too dependent, and like it's just bizarre because the internet has like broadened our world, our yeah, everyone's individual world so much, and like access to information has been broadened so much, but simultaneously it's are it's like narrowed everyone's mindset it's so it's like such a I like ironic or like contradictory, like phenomenon. Yeah, because it's.

Speaker 2:

I just feel like we all the diversity of thought is like kind of disappearing or something, but like but then at the same, at the same time I mean I, I agree with you, because then I'm like, at the same time our country is more divided than it's ever been, but it's, I think, because there are two parties that have very narrow transits.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Diversity of thought, like there's no room for I don't know. Anyway, it's dark times.

Speaker 1:

That's all.

Speaker 2:

I'll say about that. Um, okay, in addition to women like beauty standards. Being in a time where women's beauty standards are being, like I don't know again, narrowed and broadened at the same time, men are getting uglier and uglier and women are finding them more and more attractive, and this is a phenomenon I like to call bear, eagle, dog, reptile rat. Have you heard about this? Yes, okay, you sent it to me the other day. It was like every man, every hot guy, falls into this category.

Speaker 1:

So they're not getting one of these categories?

Speaker 2:

OK, yes, they're not getting ugly. They're not getting uglier, they are hot. Yeah, ok, we're just comparing them to animals and being like, ok, it's never mind, I won't say men are getting uglier, they're not. They're also undergoing so much plastic surgery. I think plastic surgeons just like need to take a beat. I think, yeah, yeah, it's just like it's like so much, so fast it's, it's we're progressing at such a rate that I feel the same way about like social, all the things I'm like.

Speaker 2:

Everything just needs to take a quick beat. Yeah, let's all just like detox for we're like we're getting too good everyone's getting too good. Everyone looks like um, I almost said avatar and then I almost said animatronic, but I think I mean, I don't know what I mean, everyone's like looking more and more like non-human. Yeah, anyway, caroline and I have made lists that we have not showed each other and we're of like lists of men, and we're going to categorize them as eagle dog, bear, reptile, rat.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so this is going to be really fun. I'm excited. Okay, I didn't get creative, so yours are probably more fun than mine. Okay, well, I know what everyone looks like. Yeah, okay, and if you don't, I'll pull them up. Okay, I think we need to pull them up because we're going to need to, like, we need some reference. Okay, get ready then. Okay, are you going first? You can go first. Okay, this one's easy, because we all know what this guy looks like. Okay, jeremy Allen White. I mean, I think he's Mouse. Yeah, he's a rat.

Speaker 1:

He's a rat he's.

Speaker 2:

I think he's the original Rat man Like that's where that came from, as people being like.

Speaker 1:

Why is he such a hot rat? Why does everyone?

Speaker 2:

think he looks hot, he looks like a rat but like why is he hot? It's his character, he always plays a hot character.

Speaker 1:

If you saw that man.

Speaker 2:

Pumping gas and he was just a regular dude. You would not think twice about him. Yeah, I don't think, I don't know. I mean, okay, yeah, he's hot, he's hot Remember that commercial, his underwear commercial. That you were Calvin Klein, I was like it was being served to me like 24 hours a day.

Speaker 2:

I literally asked you what have you been doing this week? And you said just watching the. I was like oh, like, how many times? And you were like I can't even, I can't even tell you how many times. The value is not, the limit is not exist. Yeah, okay, he's hot.

Speaker 2:

I know, but he looks like a rat. Sometimes I'm like are you hot? Remember? I sent you this thing and was like am I okay? Why do I think he's hot? I know, and because he looked so bad, but like, for some reason, he's hot. It's unexplainable.

Speaker 1:

Are you ready for mine?

Speaker 2:

Yes, ned Schneebly. Oh my gosh, you think he's hot.

Speaker 1:

AKA.

Speaker 2:

Mike White no, oh, mine aren't hot people. Oh okay, mine are just people.

Speaker 1:

Mine are just men.

Speaker 2:

Damn, you should get that. One in Eagle rat bear, one in um eagle rat bear. Reptile he's, he's between reptile and rat I think he's rat. A lot of guys look like rats. Okay, what's? Okay, this guy's not hot either. Okay, he can be, he he's very. I would say he's talented but not hot. Okay, lin-manuel Miranda. Oh gosh, okay, he's not Dog. Dog, yeah, I can see dog.

Speaker 1:

I don't really understand the eagle one.

Speaker 2:

I think it's pointy features like a beak. Okay, you know, I don't know. I think dog Dog. Yeah, I think dog Dog. Yeah, I think so too. Okay, okay, gollum, oh my gosh, ew, oh my gosh. Obviously a reptile. He is a reptile, I'm pretty sure. Oh my gosh, speaking of Gollum, you have to tell the story. What About what Alina told you one time? Oh my gosh, speaking of Gollum, you have to tell the story. What About what Alina told you one?

Speaker 2:

time oh yeah, one time my best friend Alina, I was telling her I don't know why you told her something about her hair or something.

Speaker 2:

I think I just was making fun of her hair in high school and she was like Meredith. Without skipping a beat, her response was meredith, when I get old, all of my hair is gonna be so beautiful and all the children are gonna want to play with it and all of your hair's gonna fall out and you're gonna look like gollum. It was like the most insane burn. Her being like. All the children are gonna want to play with it.

Speaker 1:

I know why is that thought about this before? Yeah, I know, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I love that, though, and all your hair is going to fall out and you're going to look like gone, hasn't happened. Yeah, my hairline is receding, is it? I think so. Oh, my gosh Mayor got a bad sunburn this summer and it literally created a bald spot.

Speaker 2:

A bald spot is it still there? Um, actually, I did it grow back. There was a chunk of my, a chunk of my scalp peeled off. I'm talking like an eighth of an inch, like she. If she looked down, you would see, like the, a perfect oval, it was like a moon, like a crater. Yeah, with no hair. It was wild. It was a bad burn. Yeah, it's a bad burn, but I think it was a bad burn, but I think it's bad.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, that was stressful.

Speaker 2:

Okay, jacob Elordi. Mm, I think dog, you said it. Mm, I think I don't know dog.

Speaker 1:

I guess or bear.

Speaker 2:

I don't get bear, like I see, like Ted ted, what's that guy not ted? What's the guy, the guy's name, that?

Speaker 1:

I love, I don't know he's bane.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, like, but that's just because I feel like or like the rock. Yeah, like big, I don't get bear. I think he's a dog. Okay, danny DeVito, oh, my gosh Dog. You think Maybe, or maybe eagle. I could see him as an eagle.

Speaker 1:

No, I love him.

Speaker 2:

I'm just thinking of like a wise old owl, I know, maybe a bear, just because.

Speaker 1:

Maybe a bear.

Speaker 2:

Maybe a bear. Okay, next Okay.

Speaker 1:

Pedro.

Speaker 2:

Pascal, what do you think he is so fine? I don't know, he's a good looking bear bear eagle or bear eagle or bear. The stakes are so low on this. I know I don't know, I know. Okay, kokoam. I had Kokoam on my list. That's literally who's next? What would you say? He is Eagle? Yeah, for sure, I think so it feels Native American to say eagle, yeah, okay, but I mean I think he.

Speaker 2:

But he also has dog bear eagle, he's not a reptile he's not a rat, he's not a rat I don't eagle eagle I see, I don't know, maybe eagle. I know my answer for my next one Okay, mr Clean. Oh, my gosh, mr Clean. I don't know he's giving like slippery seal, I think bear Bear, yeah, okay, I can see that. Why bear, though? I don't know. He has no hair.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, maybe reptile, maybe reptile.

Speaker 2:

We don't have many rats on our list. Okay, which is weird, because I feel like a lot. There's a lot of rat boys out there, like Timothee Chalamet. Rat boy, yeah, or reptile.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Rasputin. Oh yeah, Timothee.

Speaker 2:

Chalamet does look like a reptile. Ew, he's so scary Ew ew ew, I used to have the worst nightmares about this man I know In.

Speaker 1:

Anastasia when he makes her walk off the boat. Yes, I know that gives me horrible nightmares. He's horrifying.

Speaker 2:

He's a horrifying man A rat, yeah rat.

Speaker 1:

Ugh.

Speaker 2:

God, I can't even look at him. Okay, I'm going to have nightmares. Okay, next one, benjamin Button. I've never seen that movie, but you used to refer to that movie all the time I did. I think you watched it one time and couldn't shut up about it, like I liked it. No, you just referred to it all the time.

Speaker 1:

Did I. It's weird.

Speaker 2:

Because you would anytime you'd see a baby that looked like an old man, you'd be like Benjamin Button.

Speaker 1:

Oh, to this day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do a lot of people see that? Yeah, was it good?

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, is that it? That is horrifying, it's so scary.

Speaker 2:

Oh Mare, is it a horror movie? Oh, that's a real life, benjamin Button.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think that's just.

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh Mare, Mare.

Speaker 1:

I thought that was AI.

Speaker 2:

No, it was real. I think, who knows these days AI, we could do an episode on AI.

Speaker 1:

I know Okay.

Speaker 2:

Benjamin Button, ew, I think.

Speaker 1:

Reptile.

Speaker 2:

He's giving reptile. Okay, I have one more. Okay, chef Boyardee, oh gosh, I don't even know what he looks like. I haven't had a Chef Boyardee in a long time, but you're making me want some. Spaghettios, I haven't had it since I threw him up on the carpet. Ew, I don't like it, it's gross to me he is giving.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, maybe mouse Rat, I don't know. But the more we do this, the more I'm like this is not a thing. I know who made this up. We didn't have any dogs either, but it had to be. It said there's different versions of hot, and you didn't, we did not keep it to hot people.

Speaker 2:

Okay, this makes me think, Meredith and I play this game called well, everyone plays this game, but we've added an element to it. I knew you were going to say that when you know, like the F Mary Kill game that you play in high school, which sometimes I sit there and think about how many people have killed me in that game and it haunts me, do you mean like? I just am like how many high school boys killed? Oh, I never played it in high school. Oh, really, it's so sad, caroline. I was probably killed by so many. Caroline, it's fine, I hate that thought. I know it haunts me still to this day, but we play f m Mary Kill's skin suit.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of taking killing to an extra step.

Speaker 2:

So like, for example, who's our prime example? Well, we did F Mary Kill with what's Zendaya's boyfriend.

Speaker 1:

Zendaya Tom Holland.

Speaker 2:

Zendaya, tom Holland and who else I don't know. Was it Joe Joe Jonas, dea, tom Holland and who else I don't know? Was it Joe Joe Jonas? And we were all like, well, we'd probably. We were like we would do all three with not all three, we would like F and Mary's and Dea. And then we were like, well, maybe we just want to B's and Dea. And then, whoever what we were with was like Caroline was like a skin suit, and so then we were like, ooh, this could be fun, okay, but like who say we did? Okay, this is my classic, this one's hard for me Jeremy Allen, white, harry Styles, joe Jonas, and we need one more. I don't know. I feel like the skin suit always comes back to Zendaya.

Speaker 1:

It does. I just want to be her. I just want to be her.

Speaker 2:

But is it skin suit is a girl? No, you can be whoever you want. Okay, f marry, kill those three. Who is it? Jeremy Allen, white, harry Styles, joe Jonas? Yeah, okay, I think I would. Who's the first one? Yeah, okay, I think I would. Who's the first one. I think I'd F him, I might kill Joe. Yeah, I think I'd marry Harry Duh Harry is the only I feel like the only one. That's husband, material the other two have gone through nasty divorces.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to kill.

Speaker 2:

Joe, do I want to? I want a skin suit, joe, because I love his style. I love his style. But I don't want anything romantic with him at all. Okay, skin suit him. Okay, maybe you can choose if you want to kill them or skin suit them. I don't know, that's kind of an easy out know that's kind of an easy out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, who else?

Speaker 2:

can we add to the mix tom hardy? Yeah, that would be hard for you. I would f tom hardy. We know skin suit. Joe jonas okay, mary harry hill. Jeremy allen white hill. Jerry male. Jeremy allen white. Yeah, honestly, when y'all told me that jeremy allen white is not buying flowers at the farmer's market, that that is him getting pictures taken by the pops on purpose, I'm that question everything.

Speaker 1:

I questioned me too, me same with like it felt, like our relationships and all of that.

Speaker 2:

I'm like that really messes with my mind. I know, do we think that um pamela anderson and what's his name? Or?

Speaker 1:

and leonison. Yeah, you think it's pr.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. My mother-in-law and I were just talking abouton. You think it's PR? I don't know, my mother-in-law and I were just talking about this. If we think it's real, or not, it's very cute, but it is. They're coming out with a movie together. They are, so it's like it's cute and it's believable because it's just a movie together, but they're pushing it so hard. All of their is like this cutesy dynamic between them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it just feels I could believe it either way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah part of me is like what's the point? Yeah, I kind of feel like it might be okay, also, speaking of pr things happening this is how fun would it be? To have a pr relationship in your 70s oh my gosh 60s I would sign up for that immediately I know they're like.

Speaker 1:

This is the most exciting thing that's happened to me in so long time, In so long, and I just get to like go to parties with this person and pretend that we're dating. That's like so sexy To pretend that you're dating someone and they both seem really sweet and fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, this happened so long ago though. Speaking of PR stuff, I need to know your final opinion on did Harry Styles spit on Chris Pine? I always thought that was weird PR. I don't think he did it. Yeah, I don't. I think he did it, but I don't think it was like real. I think it was like I.

Speaker 1:

I honestly it got that was the was the weirdest what happened again.

Speaker 2:

Like shit hit the fan, Like he was Harry Styles was dating. What's her name? The producer person? The girl that was in the movie? Yes, what is her name? Why can't? I remember, I can't think of it, but she's cute what is her name. Don't read. I was like what is this movie even called? What is her name, don't worry? I was like what is this movie even called? That movie was weird and I liked it. It was fine the ending, I thought, was olivia wild.

Speaker 2:

Oh, olivia wild. Not, she wasn't in it. Wait, was she in it? Yeah, who's the blonde girl? Uh, pew, yes I love florence. That's what I was thinking, okay, harry was dating olivia, yes, and then what happened? How did it go from that to spitting? I don't know. I think like I don't honestly remember.

Speaker 1:

I just remember.

Speaker 2:

I watched the footage so many times and thought. I just don't see a scenario where this would happen. So we saw. I saw Harry Styles in concert like two nights after that.

Speaker 1:

Oh right.

Speaker 2:

And so the show that I was there not the show that happened after that, but the second one and so we watched like footage from the night before before we went to go see him and he announced at his concert like just got back from Venice, I had to go spit on Chris Pine, really fast and was like dying laughing about it.

Speaker 1:

And I'm like this is not real Like yeah, I forgot about that I did too.

Speaker 2:

Man celebrity drama.

Speaker 2:

I'm always so behind in it and also like sometimes I think it'd be fun to like like the amount of control people have to create these like PR scenarios is like so funny and fun, but sometimes I think it'd be kind of a nightmare. I mean, yeah, think about how stressful your life would be to be like on the PR side of celebrities. You're like controlling the narrative on literally everything. Yeah, not, I don't want to do that. Oh my gosh. Speaking of which, there is this place. I just saw this. There is this place, I can't remember where, somewhere abroad, that Harry Styles hiked and took a picture. Cops had to come in. People were like humping the grass where he took the picture Stop. And like kissing it and stuff. This could also be totally fake, but I saw an article on it.

Speaker 1:

Was it to advertise?

Speaker 2:

his new vibrators. Oh no, but I people were mad at him for that and I'm like guys for posting a picture where he was no for coming out with the vibrator brand. I'm like the brand is called pleasing where do you?

Speaker 1:

think this was headed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it made sense to me. Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, yeah, I was just gonna say anytime he makes a new announcement, I, I'm like he's coming out with an album and it's just like a new vibrator and I'm like damn it, Harry. I know I need him to get to work. I need him to work more. I need Taylor Swift to work less. I'm just going to put that out there. We can end on that note. I to calm the F down, mayor, I know I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I think we need to wrap it up, goodbye. See you next Tuesday.

Speaker 2:

See you next Tuesday, talk about PR we need PR if anyone wants to work for us. Bye.