To Snitch or Not to Snitch

Ever wrestled with the moral tug-of-war of whether to blow the whistle on something fishy or zip it up tight? This episode, we've got our beloved producer Walker stepping out of the shadows and grabbing a seat at the table, adding his distinctive flair to a debate that's as old as time but as fresh as today's headlines. We, your hosts Meredith and Caroline, chatter away about the ethical mazes of snitching, sharing our own cringe-worthy moments when we've been stuck between the rock of seeking justice and the hard place of facing the consequences of ratting out.

Brace yourselves for a ride through the gray zones of personal responsibility as we tackle the prickly question of when to call the cops on issues simmering in our own backyards. Have you ever overheard a neighbor's quarrel that sent you into a moral spiral, or spotted someone slyly sneaking a swig of something strong into their soda at a restaurant? We're chatting up a storm about these very predicaments—are we guardians of community safety or are we just sticking our noses where they don't belong? With Walker's unexpected takes stirring the pot, we promise an episode that will have you weighing in, long after the last word is spoken.

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Transcript

Speaker 2 0:04

Hello, happy Tuesday.

Speaker 3 0:08

This is Sister Shit. I'm Meredith, I'm Caroline.

Speaker 2 0:14

And tonight we have, well, two guests in a row.

Speaker 3 0:17

I know We've got a guest tonight, and this one's like an extra special guest Because it's Walker Walker.

Speaker 2 0:29

Welcome Walker.

Speaker 4 0:31

Thank you.

Speaker 2 0:31

Thank you. Your listeners have any idea what.

Speaker 3 0:36

This is who we're always talking to, who doesn't have a mic. He produces our podcast, and what else? What else do you have to say about yourself? Give us a little bio.

Speaker 4 0:49

Oh, there's not a whole lot there, but I do like that you gave me. You gave me the one name, like I'm famous or something.

Speaker 1 0:56

Like he's ludicrous.

Speaker 2 0:58

Okay, do you want us to give your last name?

Speaker 4 1:01

You like the best reference I could think of? No, please don't.

Speaker 2 1:06

Because, yeah, we have some people that think it's hilarious that we always use first D lasties and we say it's only when we're saying good things, okay, if we're saying bad things we only use the first name. But now we've been a little more sensitive. Our last guest was the first name too, because we didn't want to.

Speaker 4 1:24

Your listeners have found a tell. Is that what you mean?

Speaker 2 1:28

Well, well, no, I just told. But our listeners, are like I think it's hilarious, you guys first use first and last name. It's kind of like a no, no. You know we're, we're just keeping it real.

Speaker 3 1:41

We are. That's, that's what we're doing, okay, so to start off, I'll give the background on why we decided on the topic tonight. Meredith and I went out on Friday and it was one of those evenings where we were like, okay, I am not drinking tonight, I have to go to a kid's birthday party in the morning, so like not drinking. Well, for drinks in when we get deep.

Speaker 2 2:09

It was a four.

Speaker 3 2:10

Was it four? At least three, cause it was at the end of the Lula Drake situation.

Speaker 2 2:16

Yes.

Speaker 3 2:17

Yeah, that's fair. So, um, we start talking about how I have this like deep within me like thing that I can't narc on people.

Speaker 2 2:30

Like can't um what's snitch like you're not a snitch.

Speaker 3 2:34

Yeah, I like won't be a snitch, like not in every sense, but like I'm not trying to be the one that like does the tattling.

Speaker 4 2:43

What is adult snitching look like?

Speaker 2 2:45

Well, we were talking about it in a legal sense Like so anyway, we got into the conversation and then we were like wait, this is a great episode and we should invite Walker, because we already got into what we think and we need a third party.

Speaker 3 3:00

So the whole idea is like to narc or not to narc.

Speaker 2 3:04

Yes, welcome to narc, or not to narc?

Speaker 4 3:06

Okay, I will definitely have opinions, I am curious. Did you, did you witness some criminal behavior, Like did you see somebody doing drugs, or like stealing French fries?

Speaker 2 3:15

I wish, but I wish to know we were talking about how we wished we could narc on somebody, but then I was like I'll do it and Caroline was like I would never.

Speaker 4 3:26

And then we were like there wasn't even a person to narc on.

Speaker 3 3:28

It was oh, there was oh there is someone that was like doing something that like could be tattled upon.

Speaker 2 3:35

And so I mean the girl, the girl we were with, were like let's do this, we're going to take her down and I'm like too scared of karma or something I'm like no, this is bad juju for me.

Speaker 3 3:44

I'm not telling.

Speaker 2 3:46

Yeah, and Caroline's always called me a narc, but I think it's just because I was a really good goody two shoes in high school and I don't know why have you always called me a narc?

Speaker 3 3:58

I don't know, have I, I guess. So You're a little tattly, I think. I think it all comes down to like.

Speaker 2 4:04

You just really want justice and you really like when people follow the rules. I do.

Speaker 3 4:11

And when they don't, you think that everyone needs to know that they didn't.

Speaker 2 4:16

No, just the person in charge.

Speaker 4 4:21

So, caroline, how do you, how do you feel about rules and justice and shit?

Speaker 3 4:25

So I care about rules and justice for sure, like I don't like breaking rules and I do think justice should absolutely be served. And if it came like, if it was morally like on my conscience to tell someone something I absolutely would obviously like. If it kids being bullied in school, if I was in like the third grade I would probably like, I, like, I'm like not in school.

Speaker 3 4:52

So people aren't getting bullied in school at my age. But if I was that age I would like, if it was morally like on my conscience to tell I would. But if it doesn't have much to do with me I'm not super anarchy Like okay, I'm going to like be like I'm good and like just kind of not my business, not my nature, take its course.

Speaker 2 5:11

Yeah.

Speaker 3 5:12

Unless someone is actively being hurt.

Speaker 2 5:15

Yeah, okay. Well, the conversation we got in was more like along the lines of like very illegal activity, because I cut because Caroline was like I would never narc because I don't want to be in witness protection program. They uproot your life. What did you guys witness? No, okay, this was like. This was not what we were initially discussing.

Speaker 1 5:42

We were just like we, the conversation just progressed.

Speaker 3 5:48

It took lots of turns.

Speaker 2 5:50

And I was like it got to the point where we were talking about like. So anyway, I was saying I would absolutely narc if it meant not going to jail for my whole life, like, if I could get my sentence like shortened or erased, I would 100% tell and be like relocated with witness protection program? And Caroline said no, because then you're always paranoid and people are always following you. And I said but then you have the law on your side to like protect which?

Speaker 3 6:22

like all sounds lovely and dandy, but like you've seen the movies.

Speaker 2 6:26

Yeah, the law can only do that much sometimes.

Speaker 3 6:28

Okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 6:31

You didn't write a guest today, didn't we?

Speaker 3 6:35

What do you think on all of?

Speaker 2 6:36

it Like at the multiple levels, like are you a narc.

Speaker 1 6:42

There's so many levels here on criminal situation.

Speaker 2 6:45

What is your tendency? To narc or not to narc?

Speaker 4 6:48

Oh, to say nothing, fade into the background and talk shit in the car 100% same bitch.

Speaker 3 6:54

Oh my gosh. Yeah that's perfect. Yes, Because that's my thing is like. Am I going to talk about it? Yes. Am I going to tattle? No.

Speaker 4 7:02

Right. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it, but I do. I do identify with Meredith's strong sense of justice, like if, and it doesn't even really have anything to do with morals, it's just like if it pissed me off.

Speaker 2 7:18

I will absolutely complain about it for you know like an hour. It's more like if I'm pissed about it, if it affects me or someone I know, I'm like I want to get that that's taken care of 100% 100%, but I, I don't ever do anything about it. Yeah, I mean same if we're being honest.

Speaker 1 7:35

So what if you want to, though I think that's interesting.

Speaker 2 7:37

I do want to. I want to. I feel like they're a strong like this needs. Someone needs to know.

Speaker 4 7:43

What kind of vibe is your revenge fantasy like?

Speaker 1 7:46

I think this is interesting.

Speaker 4 7:48

I think there's a, there's a gender split here often.

Speaker 2 7:51

Well, I think it goes back to the milkshake moment we talked about in one of our earlier episodes.

Speaker 3 7:57

In our camp rock episode in our camp rock episode and the movies.

Speaker 2 8:01

Yes, and how. All the movies we watch growing up primed us for this. Like milkshake moment, where, like, the person who is not liked is like publicly shamed. I think, that's my ultimate revenge. It's like everybody knows that this person sucks. Yeah, that's kind of what I figured Like everyone is like brought together by being like you're the bad guy, that's my revenge. Is like is community yeah?

Speaker 4 8:29

That's. That's kind of what I expected Women want like social destruction. Every time in my head I'm like I'm going to break that fucking guy's jaw, like I just oh, you want to.

Speaker 3 8:39

Which is like? Not like you at all.

Speaker 4 8:42

Not even yet, Not at all Like I'm like you would never, ever, ever do that? No, not, not even close. I won't even open my mouth about it, much less punch somebody.

Speaker 2 8:53

But in my head that's the like you want them to be physically harmed yes, and then women are more like, prone to an emotional response. Yeah, I want to like beat them up.

Speaker 4 9:03

and then the crowd applaud me, Be like oh, he got them or some shit.

Speaker 2 9:07

That's a milkshake moment.

Speaker 3 9:09

That's a milkshake moment with physical violence. Mine is like I think mine is similar to yours, meredith Like I think I just want people to. If they've hurt me, or if they've hurt someone I'm close to, I want everyone else to see the like gravity of it. Or like I want I don't want them to get away with it, in a sense of like I want everyone to just be aware.

Speaker 1 9:36

Yeah, you're a public shame, yeah.

Speaker 3 9:39

And not even like public shame, but like a like you said, a sense of community. If everyone can kind of be like, yeah, this is not okay.

Speaker 2 9:49

Yeah, all together yeah.

Speaker 4 9:54

So, what about when you just see like some, some sideways, something like in your day to day life.

Speaker 2 10:04

Well.

Speaker 4 10:05

I don't want to say.

Speaker 2 10:05

I witnessed a. I just had a freedom Freeze response. I witnessed a robbery recently Whoa and wasn't anything crazy at North Shemrak, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 10:16

Was it like a shoplifting or like an art robbery? Yeah, shoplifting.

Speaker 2 10:19

Sorry, I couldn't think of the word not robbery a shoplifting, okay, like they were not stealing money, but they there were these two girls, it was right at close I was it was like me and those two girls were the last ones in the store and it's a big store and in hindsight they were being sketchy, but I didn't think really anything out of it in the moment. But literally I witnessed, with all the people that worked there, these girls just like walk right out the door with like a load of things in their hands, Like both of them had full arms.

Speaker 4 10:52

So not even trying to conceal it, just.

Speaker 2 10:54

No, they just like bold as hell, just like walked out of the store Because, like the new retail, rules are kind of like you can't.

Speaker 3 11:02

You can't confront anyone about it and blatantly ask like are you stealing? Like you have to be, like do you? Need a dressing room for those Like you just have to like acknowledge it.

Speaker 2 11:11

I think you can technically call the cops once it has happened. You can call the cops but you can't. But yeah, I mean, it was kind of like everyone just kind of like stood there like well, what, what do we do?

Speaker 3 11:28

But you wanted them to get caught right. But.

Speaker 2 11:31

I think I just it was the first time as an adult that I was like, oh my gosh, someone's doing something bad. Like I was like it felt really weird. It was like and I knew there was nothing I could do Like I felt like should I call the cops? But then I was kind of looking at like the store people to be like, well, that's their, like they saw it. I, you know, like they could do that too. It was like a. It was a weird moment, like I don't really know how to describe the feeling, but it was kind of like a like danger, but not really. I froze, like I had like a freeze response.

Speaker 4 12:02

Yeah.

Speaker 2 12:02

It was weird.

Speaker 3 12:04

I recently called the cops on maybe I am an art.

Speaker 2 12:07

I used to call the cops in my apartment neighbors a lot when we lived in the search area.

Speaker 3 12:11

So I called the cops on this dude who was dry actually my friend did, because I was driving and my friend was in the passenger seat and this dude next to us in traffic literally was so high on drugs Like you could just look over and tell that he was like nodding off and his girlfriend or his person in the passenger seat next to him was like also very clearly, like not okay, and they were like not driving well, and it was midday, so I don't know what they were doing, but they were on some hard and we like called the cops and gave them their license plate, just because it was like this person could like crash into people.

Speaker 2 12:48

Yeah, totally yeah. Yeah, I used to call the cops on our. We lived in this apartment complex and this one couple used to fight in the parking lot all the time and like be threatening each other.

Speaker 1 13:00

Oh gosh.

Speaker 2 13:01

Like threatening harm, and so I was just like stand on my balcony and be like so there's a couple fighting in my parking lot, you might want to like come by. And it was like one of those areas that I cut there Like okay, cool, Like well, we might be able to get someone out there. No one was like really concerned, but I was like so routine. I was like I just want these people to stop fighting when I'm trying to eat my dinner.

Speaker 4 13:24

So yeah, I mean, both of those are extremely reasonable, you know what are.

Speaker 2 13:28

What about you?

Speaker 4 13:31

I don't think I've ever called the cops, but I think both of those are like totally reasonable, Like I don't. I don't. I guess I was thinking lower stakes than that. I mean, you're talking about people.

Speaker 3 13:44

Oh, like you're talking about what you call someone, about being petty. Yeah, okay, wait. What would like give us an example of lower?

Speaker 4 13:51

stakes. Um well, I keep, I keep thinking about, um, I guess, like you're having drinks at a restaurant or something and what you might have seen in there, because people do all sorts of bullshit in restaurants.

Speaker 2 14:06

That's very true.

Speaker 3 14:09

Like if someone were to like pour a flask into their soda, would I tell them?

Speaker 2 14:14

Great example. That's a great example.

Speaker 3 14:17

I don't think I would tell.

Speaker 2 14:19

I would not tell, Unless they were like.

Speaker 3 14:21

unless they were like being an asshole, like, say, they started like being an asshole and I was like this person sucks. Then I'd be like listen, lady, this guy over here, you're kind of an arc, I think, maybe I am, I think you are, but like if they were minding their own. I think it comes down to the person, because I'm like if they were minding their own business like I literally will not say a word.

Speaker 2 14:48

But if the restaurant needed a reason to ask them to leave, you could be like they're illegally drinking.

Speaker 3 14:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1 14:57

I think I'm the same way.

Speaker 4 14:58

Yeah, where it's like if this person is breaking a rule, but, being nice, I don't care. Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 15:06

Are they being cool about it? Yeah, Right.

Speaker 1 15:09

Right.

Speaker 4 15:10

Or you know, do I like my waiter or is my waiter kind of annoying? I think it really is just like what team are you on?

Speaker 2 15:18

I think so too. Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 4 15:20

Like your Nordstrom Rack example. It's like you know me and my 30s. I'm like team, the people that work there, right, but like 10 years ago, I don't know I would have been like they just got some cool shit, I guess. Yeah, yeah, that is funny though the.

Speaker 4 15:42

Nordstrom Rack story because, like in your mind, like everybody's a superhero and they're in mind, you know. You're like oh well, if this ever happens, I'll do this, this, this. But really what we do is we just stay in there awkwardly and we're like oh, what are you doing now?

Speaker 2 15:57

Y'all better hope a medical situation doesn't happen in front of me. What A medical situation.

Speaker 3 16:04

I'm like medical situations, I freeze. Yeah, I have like no quick response to medical situations. Okay, you don't want to know.

Speaker 4 16:12

I just like straight up panic. What's your line, though? Sorry, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 16:18

No, no. What would you ask Walker?

Speaker 4 16:19

Like what's your line, like what do you consider a medical situation?

Speaker 3 16:23

Like I witnessed a girl having a seizure at a football game, that's good. And it wasn't like it wasn't like she was like depending on me to save her, but like I literally was like so freaked out Like I did not even I'm glad she wasn't dependent on me to save her. I couldn't never be the person on the airplane where they're like is there a medical person on board? I'd be like hiding under the seat.

Speaker 2 16:50

Yeah.

Speaker 3 16:52

Which, okay, my two friends and our nurses were saying that, like they can, you can get in trouble. Like you can get sued If, like you, are you say yes? I'm a medical person on board and you are, and then you help them. But then like maybe something doesn't go as planned.

Speaker 1 17:08

They can sue you.

Speaker 3 17:09

So, my friend was like I am not ever saying I'm a medical person.

Speaker 4 17:13

Yeah, it's crazy what people can do for I witnessed a woman choke on a hot dog.

Speaker 3 17:21

Where, when I was when I was working at the ice cream place and my friend was in there In there.

Speaker 4 17:29

Did you think of a, your food to choke on?

Speaker 3 17:32

It's like the number one thing people do, did you?

Speaker 4 17:35

I guess it makes sense.

Speaker 2 17:37

Does you have to do the Heimlich?

Speaker 3 17:40

No, no, this woman was like five times my size. Okay, and that also checks out. Like I don't think I could have physically done the Heimlich on her and I was also like 18. Was she like?

Speaker 2 17:51

doing the signal like hands around her throat. I'm choking.

Speaker 3 17:55

Yeah, and so then my boss like ran around to help her, but me and my friend, my friend was visiting us cause her boss was my, my boss was her mom and she was just like at the counter talking to me and her mom while we were working at the ice cream place and me and my friend literally like I ducked behind the counter, Like I literally ducked.

Speaker 1 18:18

I mean, I guess what else in the do.

Speaker 2 18:19

It was so scary You're going to like stand over there with a basket like a baseball net, trying to catch it.

Speaker 3 18:28

It was not like Mrs Dallifier Like whenever he like hacks the shrimp across the room, he it was more like she got it up without any help and then I think was embarrassed and like wouldn't make eye contact with any of us afterwards.

Speaker 2 18:42

Poor girl.

Speaker 3 18:43

And, like my boss, was over there trying to help her and she didn't even make eye contact with her afterwards.

Speaker 4 18:48

Oh, we were working at a where. Where was this?

Speaker 3 18:52

An ice cream place that sold chili cheese.

Speaker 4 18:58

I'm kind of surprised that it happened more often, I know.

Speaker 2 19:02

I know I was always scared when I was the first mate on our grandpa's tour boat because we had to be CPR certified and we so we took the training. But like it's one of those things that like it's like taking a self-defense class. It's like you can learn the routine but you don't know if you're any good at it until you actually need to use it. And so I was always so scared on a tour that someone was going to like need CPR and I wasn't going to remember the like, all the different things.

Speaker 3 19:35

I was like yeah, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 19:38

Legally. I was prepared because I had the certification, but it was like a one hour training in my grandpa's living room one day Every three years or whatever.

Speaker 4 19:49

And they have the weird mannequin with the compressible chest.

Speaker 2 19:52

Yes, that is, I know, keith.

Speaker 3 19:55

I will say I've done the Heimlich on my child like six to eight times and it has worked every time. Not CPR, but the baby Heimlich.

Speaker 2 20:04

Yeah, kids choke that often.

Speaker 3 20:06

He took a baby Heimlich CPR class. They don't actually choke that often. I just think our kids choke a lot they all have.

Speaker 2 20:14

Like we had to go to like an ear's nose, ear, nose and throat doctor because she choked all the time and she just they were like, yeah, I was wrong, she just doesn't chew on slippery food.

Speaker 1 20:24

Yeah, sim does not chew on food Anyway.

Speaker 2 20:27

So, yeah, I've had to do the whole thing where you hold the baby upside down and like hit them on their back.

Speaker 1 20:32

Is that terrifying? Oh yeah, it is it is freaking terrifying.

Speaker 3 20:38

That's a medical thing. I'm sure that Walker is going to be a dad soon.

Speaker 2 20:43

Introducing him into the world of fear that he's about to arrive in.

Speaker 4 20:45

Yeah yeah, I'm pretty freaked out. It's great, okay.

Speaker 3 20:49

Okay. So I want to know, because we didn't touch on this again I want to know if you were to have, like, say, you committed a crime with someone, like you were with someone.

Speaker 1 21:02

Okay yeah, they commit a crime, you get in trouble.

Speaker 3 21:07

They ask you to narc to lessen your sentence.

Speaker 2 21:12

The police ask you to narc.

Speaker 3 21:14

Yes, on, like who were you with? Yes To lessen your, oh no, my phone's dying to lessen your sentence Do you do it or?

Speaker 2 21:25

do you not? How much when you say your phone is dying. Do we have time to answer this question?

Speaker 3 21:30

Yeah, I got 10%.

Speaker 2 21:32

Okay, oh, we're really. If you know me at all, you would know that.

Speaker 3 21:36

You would know that my phone is never fully charged.

Speaker 2 21:38

Okay, so I okay. How long is the sentence? Like a decade.

Speaker 3 21:50

Okay.

Speaker 2 21:55

What is the crime? Drugs muggling. Yeah, something with drugs you like snub, muggle drug across the Mexican border with your BFF Sure. No previous crime history.

Speaker 3 22:06

No, no Okay.

Speaker 4 22:09

But isn't it? Didn't you say that it was like you were like with somebody and they committed a crime, like you're not part of it?

Speaker 2 22:16

Oh.

Speaker 3 22:16

Yeah, and also like maybe this person's kind of scary and has scary connections.

Speaker 2 22:22

Yeah, this person's more involved and you got involved once.

Speaker 3 22:25

Yes.

Speaker 4 22:26

But they might come get you.

Speaker 3 22:28

Exactly that was my whole point.

Speaker 2 22:31

It's hard because it's so relative, to like there's so many factors that could play into it, because it's like what kind of crime are you involved? Are they involved in how many? How deep into the network of criminals are they that? How many people could potentially come get me? Are they murderers?

Speaker 3 22:51

That's the thing, Mayor. It's like we've seen I used to think I.

Speaker 2 22:54

I used to think I knew, but I think I've been thinking about it too much since Friday.

Speaker 3 22:58

We've seen Breaking Bad.

Speaker 2 23:00

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 23:03

They will murder your ass in a prison cell if you narc, this is my thinking.

Speaker 4 23:12

I think I would get shanked day one of any kind of incarceration. So any you know, any kind of jail or prison is a death sentence for a guy like me. So I think I'm I'm snitching immediately.

Speaker 3 23:36

You're going to take the chances in narc.

Speaker 4 23:38

Yes.

Speaker 3 23:39

Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 23:41

I mean, do I have?

Speaker 1 23:42

children, is this like?

Speaker 2 23:43

pre-children situation. Yeah.

Speaker 4 23:47

None of us are.

Speaker 2 23:48

No no kids involved.

Speaker 3 23:49

We don't have kids, because if we had kids, if I had a kid, I would definitely narc Right. But then your kids are in danger. Dude Like they might. They might say we, you might get a letter and say we know your kids and where they go to school.

Speaker 4 24:05

I guess it depends on who you know. Like are you? Are you snitching on like a drug kingpin or just like a random low level person? Oh, if it's a random low level person that doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 24:15

It's like somebody with connections. That freaks me out.

Speaker 3 24:19

It's like if somebody has too many connections, I think I'd be scared shitless. Yeah, thank goodness, I don't commit crimes. I know or hang out with people who do I know I used to, so I don't know anymore.

Speaker 2 24:35

I was so sure and I really don't know. I 10 years is a long time, but it's not life, I know. I mean, look at Gypsy Rose. I could get out clean.

Speaker 3 24:44

Gypsy. Rose came out on like as a shining star.

Speaker 1 24:48

I know.

Speaker 3 24:51

I'm thinking about whenever you're like I'd get shank day one in prison. I'm thinking about what Meredith told us about her cousin who used to do that thing where they'd go sing to prison ministry. Oh man in the mirror and you were like, what is that going to do? Are they going to like watch these teenagers sing Michael Jackson and be like, oh, I guess I won't go murder my roommate anymore?

Speaker 4 25:15

It's just. The sad thing is I wouldn't even make it to Meredith's cousin's concert. That'd be like day two, day one. I know we got to kill this guy.

Speaker 2 25:27

I could make it if I just laid, you know, put my head down and laid low and just followed the rules in prison.

Speaker 3 25:35

I mean Gypsy Rose made it and she had no life experience at all.

Speaker 2 25:42

I think women's prison is a little different than men's prison.

Speaker 4 25:45

Yeah, yeah, I don't know you might. Yeah, maybe you could make it. What would you do, caroline?

Speaker 2 25:51

You wouldn't mark.

Speaker 3 25:52

I don't think I would because I think, like, like, okay, like Walker said, if it's some like rando that has like some you know rando person committing a crime.

Speaker 2 26:05

Yeah, maybe I would. I would mark 100%.

Speaker 3 26:08

But like if it is somebody that has that many connections, I think it's just ingrained in me like you don't know.

Speaker 4 26:17

It is funny.

Speaker 3 26:18

I see Breaking back.

Speaker 4 26:21

Wait, that is the only reason, like as a 32 year old, the only reason not to narc is will they come kill me later?

Speaker 1 26:30

Yeah.

Speaker 4 26:30

You know what I mean. Like if you're just with somebody and they steal something, it's like that's a no-brainer. I'm like, yeah, that idiot did it.

Speaker 2 26:39

You know, right right, man, we've got only a minute left. You guys, this went by really fast.

Speaker 3 26:49

Wait, only a minute left.

Speaker 2 26:50

Right, this time left one minute.

Speaker 3 26:52

Oh, on our zoom.

Speaker 4 26:54

Yeah.

Speaker 3 26:57

Well that did go by fast. It was fun. It was fun. I guess we're all on team.

Speaker 2 27:07

Everyone ponder.

Speaker 3 27:09

Yeah to narc or not to narc? I want to know people's thoughts. Okay, since we have Walker on tonight, I feel like we should do something extra to close us out. So let's do a round of, would you rather?

Speaker 2 27:30

Awesome, okay, I have some. Do you want to go first? Sure, okay.

Speaker 3 27:38

Would you rather?

Speaker 2 27:40

This is just a walker correct.

Speaker 3 27:43

Sure, or if you want to answer to, we can. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 27:48

If you have relevant insights, please interject.

Speaker 3 27:53

Would you rather clog the toilet on a first date or on your first day at a new job?

Speaker 2 28:04

Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 28:11

Where am I on the first date? Am I at like?

Speaker 2 28:13

a restaurant or am I at her house? That was my first question too. You're at her house.

Speaker 3 28:18

No, I was going to say let's make this more interesting. You're at her parents house, oh my.

Speaker 4 28:23

God.

Speaker 3 28:24

Why am I there? On the first date You're picking her up. It's high school.

Speaker 4 28:29

Oh God I'm. Do I know this person at all, or did I like meet her on Tinder or something?

Speaker 3 28:39

You have class with her.

Speaker 2 28:47

Ah, fuck yeah so she could tell people about know you.

Speaker 4 28:52

Totally, Totally I. The high school twist is funny because adult me would think that was funny and not really mind that she told people and would be horrified if I did that at a job. But high school me you know.

Speaker 3 29:12

Okay, that answers well, though, Because see, my thing is like at work. Well, it also depends on what your work bathroom situation is like.

Speaker 1 29:20

Right.

Speaker 3 29:21

Because, like you could, if it's, it could be that like no one would even know it was you, if you time it right.

Speaker 4 29:30

This is a great point, because I used to work in hospitals which, like man, I'm gonna talk about getting away with the crime. Yeah, totally no one would have. Yeah, I worked on a psych ward. It's like what me.

Speaker 3 29:47

You were like oh, it was Dan, it was Dan.

Speaker 4 29:50

Yeah, everyone's like yeah, definitely was Dan.

Speaker 2 29:54

Oh my gosh, that's kind of ideal.

Speaker 4 29:57

I'm thinking more like and I've never had a job like this. But you know, I don't know You're like selling insurance or something.

Speaker 2 30:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right, yeah, definitely yeah, like I'm imagining a Cube City too, and everybody.

Speaker 4 30:10

Easy enough to figure out. There's only one toilet in the whole place.

Speaker 1 30:15

Y'all.

Speaker 4 30:15

I have a boss.

Speaker 3 30:16

Everyone knows when he goes to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 30:18

This is a side note, but I used to have a boss that would drink metamucil every morning and he would offer it. He would put it in the break room with him while he was putting in his coffee.

Speaker 3 30:29

He'd ask you if you wanted some cause metamucil in his coffee. What more does that?

Speaker 4 30:33

man need what does he metamucil do.

Speaker 2 30:36

It's like fiber and he would bring his eye. He was like everyone knew that he brought his iPad to the bathroom so every and he'd he carry that thing around everywhere. So if he'd always like put it in your face to show you something, like make you touch it, so everyone would be like I had to touch his iPad today.

Speaker 4 30:57

I I mean, I would obviously never do that in his position, but this makes me like him, Like he's basic, like everyone behaves like that at home.

Speaker 2 31:06

And he's just like yeah, I'm just talking to me. He's like this is who I am. I'm going to do this at work too. Yes, and he was very well liked, like everyone loved him, but everyone knew about the metamucil. Everyone had been offered metamucil and everyone had to touch his poopy iPad Like, yeah, fiber in coffee is insane, I know Well, I also would. Only he only ate, he would always say like oh, I drink my fiber, I only eat brown food. So, like I need the metamucil, I only eat brown.

Speaker 4 31:32

We knew way too much about his like like I only eat Snickers bars and like fried chicken, like fried stuff Like he loved unhealthy food. Beige is best. Yeah.

Speaker 2 31:45

Okay, so we have a couple more, though. So, like, what's your gut? Tell you Poop in the at work, or I mean, what was it Clawed the toilet at work or on the?

Speaker 4 31:55

day or on a first day at the parents house. I'm going to go. I'm going to go clog the toilet at I'm going to do adult me. So I'm going to say clog the toilet at the girl's parents house, the woman's parents.

Speaker 3 32:07

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 32:09

I love that.

Speaker 3 32:11

You're just like this is me on the first date, yeah.

Speaker 2 32:14

Yeah.

Speaker 4 32:16

You can just be like well, we're never going to see each other again, that's true.

Speaker 2 32:20

Yeah, All right. Second one would you rather have hair for teeth or teeth for hair?

Speaker 4 32:27

Holy shit, I'm going to go. I would rather have teeth for hair, because I could at least shave my head.

Speaker 2 32:38

No, they're bones. You can't shave bones.

Speaker 4 32:40

Pull them out every morning. I don't know. I mean, how could you eat with hair for teeth? Yeah, you couldn't.

Speaker 2 32:45

It's like one of those whales.

Speaker 4 32:46

You'd have to like You'd be choking on hot dogs Like your old friend.

Speaker 3 32:52

So gross You'd have to like. Buzz your teeth.

Speaker 2 32:55

You have to like grind them down with like a sander. Oh, I would think I'd pick that one too. Okay, next one.

Speaker 3 33:05

Okay. The next one is would you rather, oh, oh, oh, I lost, I lost. I wrote these down. Okay, would you rather give up your phone or only wear crocs for the rest of your life?

Speaker 4 33:22

Only where crocs. Give up my phone with everything. I mean with the way the world's going. I mean, how many times are you ever in a situation where you can't wear crocs? I mean this is a depressing fact about the world. But you know, I mean I will say heal now and they do make a croc, and they make a croc.

Speaker 3 33:49

Loafer.

Speaker 2 33:50

Everyone's orthopedic health would be through the roof.

Speaker 3 33:54

It would be an all. I'm not going to lie, I love a jibbit.

Speaker 2 33:59

We know Caroline put on every single jibbit at one time. It's like gave the same energy as like someone who goes and gets like every tattoo they've ever wanted at one time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 34:14

I got the flat one.

Speaker 2 34:16

No jibbit Day two covered in jibbit.

Speaker 3 34:19

I had every hole filled with a jibbit, to the point that they gave me blisters. So I had to take them out and put them in strategic spots.

Speaker 1 34:29

Yeah Well only problem some of us have.

Speaker 2 34:33

Okay, All right. My last one is would you rather have to eat with your hands tied behind your back for the rest of your life or be handcuffed to the weirdest guy at your gym for the four months before his bodybuilding competition?

Speaker 4 34:54

I mean, oh, my gosh Walker. Some of our listeners may know this is, this is a question very near and dear to my heart 1000%. I want my hands tied behind my back and I have to eat everything with my face. Yeah, I would rather see like a dog, then you don't want to be around him.

Speaker 3 35:14

We're a man.

Speaker 4 35:16

Hell no.

Speaker 2 35:18

The four months before his bodybuilding competition. You'd see some stuff yeah.

Speaker 4 35:23

Oh yeah, I'm not even handcuffed.

Speaker 1 35:26

You're not even handcuffed to him all the time. But the thing is about her.

Speaker 3 35:31

I don't think that was your easiest answer. I know because I'm like the handcuffed ones. Only four months, the hands behind your back. One is your whole life.

Speaker 4 35:40

Yeah, dude, four months is that's a lifetime.

Speaker 1 35:44

Which I longed.

Speaker 2 35:45

Yeah, what were you going to say? You were thinking about what?

Speaker 4 35:50

So do you? Do people know about the diaper guy?

Speaker 3 35:57

No, give a quick rundown.

Speaker 4 35:59

Okay, so there's this guy. The gym I go to there's just a lot of weirdos, like I like to say it's like a psych ward for fitness nerds, like there are people that seem straight up unwell in there. And there is a guy that wears today I'm going to estimate a one inch inseam on the shorts, but I've seen him before roll up his shorts as if he is wearing a diaper.

Speaker 2 36:30

And it's really not a diaper it's like a cheeky panty, it's so disturbing. And there's not a strand of hair on him.

Speaker 4 36:39

Oh no, that's a very, very good point. Yes, yes, fully shaved. And he like walks around with the tripod and his phone trying to get the get the best like flexing pictures he can find.

Speaker 2 36:54

I don't think I knew about the tripod.

Speaker 4 36:56

But I was thinking about his legs today, which is an odd sentence to say out loud, as I was leaving his legs kind of look like wrinkled tinfoil. You know what I'm talking about Because you guys have seen the picture. His legs are so muscular and so vascular that the texture of them is so unnatural. It looks like saran wrap or something.

Speaker 3 37:26

Yeah, interesting. I'm trying to remember. I think I put it out of my head.

Speaker 2 37:33

Being pushed to its limits with the amount of a taughtness.

Speaker 3 37:36

I think I was distracted by the cheeks.

Speaker 2 37:40

The cheeks.

Speaker 4 37:42

Yes.

Speaker 2 37:42

The veins. I was most distracted by the veins?

Speaker 4 37:46

Yeah, it's so much so this is yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 37:50

we wouldn't want to be handcuffed to him, Hell no. Yeah, and before a body to be asked me to inject him with his steroids.

Speaker 4 37:57

He's definitely on a bunch of illegal stuff, like no questions, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 38:02

So around this episode out. Yeah, would you knock on?

Speaker 3 38:06

him To the bodybuilding competition.

Speaker 1 38:10

Oh, this is so good, I'm not going to get an anonymous email.

Speaker 2 38:15

If you saw him shooting up, steroids shooting up I don't know why you say that steroids If you saw him using steroids in the locker room, then you have to be.

Speaker 3 38:23

He would, because he was handcuffed to him.

Speaker 2 38:26

Okay.

Speaker 3 38:27

Oh right.

Speaker 2 38:28

Oh, you're in this scenario. He is. I'm a real accomplice here.

Speaker 3 38:33

No, you saw his whole body.

Speaker 1 38:35

You're not in a complex.

Speaker 2 38:36

You went to his bodybuilding competition on handcuffed. He's on the stage by himself. He wins, would you? Would you dark?

Speaker 4 38:48

No oh. I mean, do I get anything out of it? No am I? No, it's just I know earlier.

Speaker 2 38:56

It depends on how much you'd like or dislike someone.

Speaker 3 38:58

I was gonna say and you've been trapped to him for four months at this point you probably can't stand the guy.

Speaker 2 39:04

Hmm, he might be really nice.

Speaker 4 39:07

Yeah, you never know I think, but in order for me to, I would have to like really be on the side of someone else who is competing against and be like oh okay so and so got a raw deal here, because the guy with the weird baby diaper shorts Is using is yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 39:36

Like it would have to be either for justice of someone you love or you'd have to get something out of it. Like they would be.

Speaker 4 39:43

Like we're giving a thousand dollars to the person that tells us if someone was doing steroids, you'd be like okay, there's a lot of money, you're throwing a lot of variables at me, like part of part of me is just like why? Why am I at this thing, could I?

Speaker 3 39:58

because you, because you were unhandled Right.

Speaker 2 40:04

Jade stuck in traffic. She can't get there, so you got to just watch right.

Speaker 4 40:09

And now I'm thinking but could I even emotionally connect with somebody who was competing in this thing, like? Could I even feel bad for someone that, like, came in second place? I'd probably think that they were the same kind of weirdo, you know yeah, I mean, they probably are. I'd probably just get unhandcuffed and sprint away immediately. I traffic Be an awful way to die, it's like without here's handcuff for four months he couldn't take it anymore. He ran outside.

Speaker 3 40:43

Done.

Speaker 2 40:47

Well, justice, all the narks out there in the world, they're just trying to do the right thing and I know.

Speaker 3 40:56

I Wonder if we've met anyone that's been in witness protection program, because all I can think about is Mary, kate and Ashley. On our lips are sealed. Yeah, with those hot Australian boys now, if I got if it was for sure that I would get to be in Australia with those two specific boys.

Speaker 2 41:20

And you were 14. Yes, absolutely 14.

Speaker 3 41:24

Obviously I will mark and I have to have all their outfits and I also have to get on the jet ski date and the fair date.

Speaker 2 41:32

Yeah, no question. How do you guys feel about me?

Speaker 4 41:35

How do you guys feel about narking on other people's kids?

Speaker 3 41:40

That's good one. Like. What, if like?

Speaker 4 41:42

what if you're picking up your kid from school?

Speaker 2 41:44

and.

Speaker 4 41:45

There's a kid in the class and you're like you know you don't tell anybody this because you don't like to admit it, but you don't like this kid. Yeah, kids annoying or whatever, mm-hmm, and you see him do something wrong. How tempted are you to tell the teacher.

Speaker 3 41:58

I Wouldn't, unless he was doing something to my kid.

Speaker 4 42:04

Yeah, same. But if they were, do something to your kid. You're, you're taking him.

Speaker 2 42:09

Oh, I would, I would tell yeah.

Speaker 3 42:11

Well, I would, depending on if what it is. If it's just like Not speaking nicely, I would have some handle it. But like if it's something that I, if it's anyone, even if I like the kid and they're like doing something Not cool, I would probably say something to someone. Right, right, right yeah but if it's like something that sim should handle on his own, I probably let him handle it on his own and then like be like Jay. That kid is such a turn.

Speaker 4 42:38

Yeah, that's cool. I would imagine we've had a lot of conversations about like the types of people you want to make friends with.

Speaker 2 42:44

You know, like they all come out home and tell me something that she's like mildly, like not cool with and I'm like, yeah, it just doesn't sound like someone that's like really nice.

Speaker 3 42:54

You don't know, I don't know if you know, it's like like most things that happen, or like More, just like let's Frame this in a yeah but do a lot of like the yeah, if they're saying that like, because we had said like sim was saying that one whenever he first started school, one kid in his class was mean to him. And we it, we were like. You know he might feel be feeling uncomfortable at school, like you just never know if he's like also if he's going through to it, like, but but that doesn't mean that you have to be friends with him and that doesn't yeah, that you can't like.

Speaker 3 43:33

You can say something if he's like doing something wrong right you but yeah, the telling on.

Speaker 2 43:40

I I think if the here like there's a kid and one of my daughter's classes that's like problem, like Tends to always be in trouble and I think it was a kid, like that, I don't think I'd tell, because I feel like if the If they're always in trouble. I knew the teacher was like already aware of behavioral stuff. I don't think I'd like load on yeah, I wouldn't either for both of their sakes.

Speaker 3 44:03

I Really think the only way I would tell the teacher is if sim didn't, if sim was like I can't, like I don't, if it was like continuous and like you know what to do it, mm-hmm. Yeah, I think that's the only way I'd be like I think I might need the teacher to step in. Yeah.

Speaker 4 44:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1 44:27

Man kid shit.

Speaker 2 44:29

I know there are some interesting dynamics at school.

Speaker 3 44:34

I know I know crazy, yet yeah, they're so young. I'm like, oh gosh, I went through some crazy shit at school, so for sure buckle up.

Speaker 1 44:46

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 44:48

I'm like what's the craziest thing that you witnessed at school?

Speaker 2 44:54

My fourth grade teacher to port like it was actually on the teacher. This kid couldn't find something in his desk and he was notoriously unorganized and never had a stuff together. But we're in the fourth grade, yeah, and the teacher we had those independent desk I had, like the hubby, and she picked up his desk and and dumped it out on the floor in front of everyone and made him pick everything up and reorganize it.

Speaker 1 45:18

And we all just watched it happen like she like so messed up.

Speaker 2 45:23

I know, I Know whoa. That was probably the craziest thing I saw happen.

Speaker 4 45:29

I wasn't brutal.

Speaker 2 45:30

I know she was very strict oh.

Speaker 3 45:34

I hate that.

Speaker 2 45:35

Yeah, I Like.

Speaker 3 45:37

I had a teacher in the first grade, tell me, I Like rushed through a coloring page because it was like movie time and so I like and I wasn't being totally uncreative I like drew Santa Claus blowing away and I like brought the piece of paper up to my teacher and was like he's blowing away, and she was like in front of the other like teachers. She was like standing with a couple other teachers and she was like no, honey, it's the row away and balled it up and taught like basketball, shot it into the trash and made me start over.

Speaker 2 46:09

Oh, that is so rude.

Speaker 3 46:13

I know To a child. I was literally like in. I was like five or six.

Speaker 4 46:22

And I like so vividly I remember there being a few teachers that were like so mean, and my mom worked to the school we went to and Her telling me like when I was an adult, like us talking about her or her just being like, yeah, I just don't think that she liked kids you know Like everyone had teachers where it's just like man. Why are you a teacher?

Speaker 2 46:47

Yeah, clearly 100% truly.

Speaker 4 46:51

Like I feel like if you're saying that to a kid about the throwaway or whatever, that's really mean yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 46:57

I mean you shouldn't be working with children and I get it kids.

Speaker 3 47:01

Kids can irk your nerves, but like You're not gonna like publicly shame them or embarrass them, like that's just low blow.

Speaker 4 47:11

Oh, 100% yeah.

Speaker 2 47:12

I know, I know, I feel like if that had the desk flipping happen now, she would have lost her job so fast. Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 47:20

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 47:22

I think I mean it's scary, shitless, so crazy. Anyway, you should round it up wrap it up.

Speaker 3 47:32

I feel like it's. I know. But, I know that was fun now.

Speaker 2 47:37

That was thanks for being on Walker.

Speaker 3 47:39

Yeah, yeah typically we do this anyways, and it's just not recorded. So true, my gosh. Well, thanks, we want to know everyone's opinions.

Speaker 2 47:57

I'm not, you're not knocking to nark or not to nark, and I think the lesson I learned tonight was that there's a lot of factors, yeah, so I can't say I'm fully, do they?

Speaker 3 48:09

offer counseling. If you get into this situation, do they offer a counselor that helps you make the right, informed decision?

Speaker 2 48:16

Because they should.

Speaker 3 48:17

oh, whether or not to nark, that's a great, that's a great question and it can't be law enforcement, because obviously they would want us to know. Yeah, it needs to be like an unbiased party that helps us like Navigate as a trigger.

Speaker 2 48:32

Wouldn't that be like the coolest gig ever? Yeah that was if you just got to help people, which, as I think, pretty sure. Therapists aren't supposed to tell people what to do.

Speaker 3 48:40

You're not but I guess you would be like helping them make it lay out pros and you could help them lay out pros and cons of like the entire situation.

Speaker 2 48:49

Walker, should you go back to counseling and create this job?

Speaker 4 48:53

I mean, this actually sounds fun.

Speaker 2 48:55

Why don't that be so? Fun yeah, I guess that's what I was for you, but you get all the drama.

Speaker 3 49:01

Yeah, I guess that is what your lawyers supposed to do but I don't think they typically are that good it they're just trying to get their back.

Speaker 4 49:09

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 49:13

Man well, this was very fun. We've wrapped this up like eight times. We have thanks for.

Speaker 2 49:20

Listening.

Speaker 3 49:21

Yes, thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 49:24

See you next.

Speaker 3 49:25

Tuesday.