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Spooky Season, Pt. 2: House of Wax ft. @HorrorHuesPodcast
Brace yourself for a chilling journey as we dissect the 2005 horror movie, "House of Wax" alongside our special guest, Shanika Pichey from the Horror Hues Podcast. Known for her sharp insights on horror flicks and urban legends, Shanika’s unique perspective as a black woman in the horror and board game communities adds layers of depth to our discussion on the movie that reinvented horror with its eerie wax figures and unexpected plot twists. We leave no stone unturned as we explore the chilling wax figures, Paris Hilton's hair-waxing scene, and the intriguing use of peanut butter in the film's climax.
Beyond the movie, we pivot our focus to the larger portrayal of black characters in horror movies and the trend of beautiful white people in leading roles. The conversation takes an exciting turn as we share our thoughts on how modern reboots of classics like "Halloween" should shape their narratives. Get ready to question societal norms and film industry standards as we navigate the intricacies of the horror genre.
Before bidding adieu, we reflect on the horror movie landscape of the 70s and 80s, and discuss the genre's evolution with the emergence of beautiful people in horror films and the impact of Jordan Peele's work. The conversation is not just about movies though, as we share our love for the spooky season and make an open invitation for our listeners to share their eerie tales. Buckle up for an engaging, insightful, and hair-raising conversation on representation in horror movies and so much more. So, are you ready to face the horror?
Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 2:Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Sister Shit. I am Caroline, I'm Meredith.
Speaker 1:And I hope you're feeling spooky.
Speaker 2:Yes, I hope you're feeling spooky because today we have something special. We have a good friend of ours, shanika Peachy, here to talk with us about a topic that we will later later, I don't know what I'm trying to say Wait, we're telling in like two seconds no need for buildup.
Speaker 1:We're talking about House of Wax.
Speaker 2:We're talking about House of Wax. Wait, but I'm gonna let. I'm gonna have it. Shanika, tell us a little bit about who she is and her podcast that she has. We're doing a little podcast collab.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, don't mind me.
Speaker 3:You're all good, yeah, hi, I'm Shanika Peachy and I have a podcast that's called Horror Hue, so the tagline is a horror and urban legend podcast told through a black woman's perspective. I have always watched horror movies. I was watching them way before I should have, thanks to having an older brother, and you know I'm gonna talk about it in this movie. Just like certain things, like as a black person, I'm like okay, like first of all, like we're so like I'm not the coolest character.
Speaker 3:Okay, sure, okay, sure. So you know just kind of just always loving horror movies and then usually if there's like a black person in there, they're just kind of doing the things that usually a black person would not do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, doing the least.
Speaker 3:Yeah, or just just kind of being like a filler until they get killed off or whatever. And then you know, I've always been into like urban legends and reading other books and stuff and so, yeah, I just kind of bring my opinions in on it. And how I felt like when I saw these movies and you know, just being black, just how it made me feel so that's awesome.
Speaker 2:I love that. I had been doing a really cool like segment. I think this whole month you said you've you're dedicating to board games which is like another facet of yours.
Speaker 3:So maybe you can tell a little bit about that.
Speaker 3:I'm obsessed with board games and again. So I tell you. I did another recording this morning and it was with a good friend, brenda Lynn, and she's biracial, queer brown woman and she runs Dungeons and Dragons. And again that's like another game where you would think you know, just like typical, like white men or whatever, and just kind of like taking up space in the board game community. So, like what I'm posting about games and I like to see like hashtags that people are using just so I can see how I can get more like views on my post, a lot of times when I'm scrolling I don't see anyone that looks like me and I'm just like yeah on.
Speaker 3:I know we're out there, so it's like either we're not posting about it or the companies are choosing to not share us. Like what's the deal?
Speaker 3:So, yeah, just kind of, you know, trying to just like change it. I mean they're like I said, there's, there's folks out there but like we're just still just kind of like a barely like a drop in the bucket compared to but I mean, I think that's just kind of how it is just in general, with like the whole like influencer thing, and I think that'll come into play. Talking about this movie, I can't wait, you know, with Paris Hilton and Jesus Christ, why did we ever make her famous?
Speaker 1:I kind of love her.
Speaker 3:Oh, wait okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I just can't wait to discuss, because it's I don't know you like, only love her because she's awful.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like a new. I mean, do we want to get into this? Because I'm I could talk about Paris, but I could also wait. Let's come back to Paris. Okay, let's get back to Paris. But yeah, we're so excited to have you and we picked House of Wax because it's the only one of the only horror movies I've ever seen. I was telling, because I forced you right, what? Okay, yeah, I was telling Caroline today. I was like I feel like I'm gonna, like I am a little bit lost in the woods on this one because I like I don't feel like I have as much context as you guys do on horror movies. But I'm so I'm like interested to like hear you guys's take, because I, as someone, who's only?
Speaker 1:seen like two horror movies. I find House of Wax so entertaining yeah, no, I mean what it's for so many reasons like I'm excited to talk about it as someone who has, like no nothing to compare it to. So it came out in 2005.
Speaker 3:And that was around the time. So I would say the new cycle of horror movies started with Scream, and that was putting in people that were famous at the time on series. You know beautiful white people. Yes that was attached to like a show, that was like on Fox, cw, whatever, and throwing them into movies. You know, it's like Scream, that was like the.
Speaker 3:I know you did last summer, okay you know, and then all of these movies just like had campaigns around them, and House of Wax kind of had that as well, because I actually saw it in the theater and I remember at that time, you know, watching One Tree Hill, having a crush on Chad.
Speaker 1:Michael Murray.
Speaker 3:Was he a bad?
Speaker 1:guy in One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3:You know what, After looking back on it yeah, we just was okay, but he wasn't supposed he wasn't like supposed to be the bad guy, it was supposed to be like that. You know, I'm the poet guy, the.
Speaker 1:Jaded.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know a lot of characters in the early 2000s you're supposed to like them, and then you're like really, but One Tree Hill in general just has a lot of like behind the scenes, like the creator, mark Sean, is like a terrible guy, like we could talk about that's a other episode in itself.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I just so. I just remember the hype. And, of course, paris Hilton was really huge back then. Yes, and I was just like reading some stuff today. And she was actually casted first and then they built the cast around her. Oh and I remember, oh, my gosh, I remember when she would wear a tank top like Watch Me Die May 6.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's genius. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, I love that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then Karen was telling you the other day about how MTV had like making the movie, so I thought we were going to ask you about that Did you watch it? No, no, no, no, but I wanted you to talk about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I watched it this morning and I didn't realize there was like a five episode series, but YouTube just like has them all together and for like I was just like oh God, why was I attracted to Chad Michael Murray? He definitely just like had Diva asshole attitude, yeah. And so it followed Jared Padalecki, alicia Cuthbert, chad Michael Murray and Paris Hilton, which I was like okay, because the guy that plays her boyfriend, blake, robert, richard or Richard, which I remember a quick poll Did you think he was hot?
Speaker 3:Yes, but he was a thing. He was on a show that I used to watch at that time. So that always bothered me because you know it's kind of like well, all right. So, for example, I've seen it now, but when I used to tell people I never watch, friends are like you never watch friends, I'm like well, do you watch girlfriends? Or like no, what's that? I'm like okay, yeah, see, because I think it's like you're black, I'm black, you're white, like we've got a different thing.
Speaker 3:So I just remember used to watching this, be like he's like well known within the black community but not within like the MTV community, to be like one of the stars that they followed around. Anyway, yeah, so Joel Silver, he produced Eddie no, joel Silver die hard Matrix. Like he's just makes big movies and so he comes down and was filmed in Australia.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, even that space in Louisiana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would have never imagined that was all the fat, why would they go?
Speaker 2:to.
Speaker 1:Australia to film that it was. There was nothing notable about the set, about the place, like in the woods.
Speaker 3:Maybe it was cheaper because they used the Golden Coast studios, okay so, and I remember watching this, like when it was, like you know, showing like in live time back then, and so a lot of things are coming back to me today. But yeah, it was filming Australia, and Joel Silver comes down and they're doing like wardrobe check, whether yay or nay, whether he likes his outfit. And then Chad, like Murray, you know, he has on like the black sweatshirt. He's like this is an extra large, they don't have any other sizes, and just like a diva. And then he like looks the camera. He's like he turned the camera away for now.
Speaker 1:What's he doing now, is he?
Speaker 2:doing. He was just in Riverdale as a cult leader.
Speaker 3:Okay, but yeah, we talked about that and he was Edgar ever never, ever never. Oh my gosh, yeah, like my toxic my toxic trait is like like he talks it, man, because I was so specifically Chad Michael. Murray yeah, for real, he's got a special place, um and Helen, in my heart just. And then I remember Paris being like, yeah, I dress different for my character. She dressed us a little bit more like hip hop.
Speaker 1:No, she wears a tank top the whole damn time, do you think?
Speaker 3:anything that she wore in that movie gave off. Okay.
Speaker 1:I thought you were gonna. I thought you're gonna finish that sentence and be like I looked. I dressed like more poor, like I don't have money, because she dressed like a normal teenager. I would have never described her as dressing hip hop.
Speaker 3:That's probably what she just said.
Speaker 1:That because she was dating a black guy in the movie I mean it's personally, if we're being honest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, probably, and so they're like trying things on and he's like yay or nay. And Chad Michael Murray I remember that time he was like, yeah, I'm, I plan to put on an extra like 10 pounds at the gym because you know this movie he's supposed to be like bad boy and there's like a fresh out of jail, yeah, and Joel Silver's like yeah, no, mm-hmm, like you're fine as you are like 10 pounds, you don't have the time for it.
Speaker 1:We don't care, we don't care yeah.
Speaker 3:And I can't remember if they showed this series before, after the movie came out, because they even talked about when Jared Padalecki because in the his character, like you see the whole process of them turning into a wax figure and they showed in the series. I'm like they gave a lot away in the series and then he was like oh, because even so, he's like well, like, are y'all gonna actually wax me?
Speaker 3:It's gonna be hot wax, cold wax. He's like I mean, you can't bring my body double in for this and and and and and. Like he's on the phone with like someone, whoever his girlfriend points out the time. He's like yeah, babe, you know they're gonna wax me and I just don't know. I feel about this and like oh, my gosh complete diva about it.
Speaker 3:Oh, Chad Michael Murray's being an ass and I feel like the only one that watch this and then he goes like episode like two or three Alicia comes in and like you can tell, like you can tell like people that act and people that are like actors. You know what I mean. Yes, he's had a professionalism, because even like the first scene that she and Paris was supposed to film together, because since Alicia, I think she was like on another project she's like a mean girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was okay, I said in it. While we were watching it I was like she's honestly a really good actress. And Caroline was like is she or is everyone else just bad?
Speaker 3:Everyone else is just really fucking bad.
Speaker 1:I was like I think it's the latter, but wait also, what's the main guy?
Speaker 2:What's the boyfriend? Like the douchey boyfriend's name, jared.
Speaker 1:Padalecki His name is so.
Speaker 3:he was in one three hill with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and y'all have to watch it. I'm gonna send you the link because I feel like there's like a lot of like undertones in it. Like you could tell, like he knows tab Michael Murray and already knows he's probably like an asshole In this series, like on the show, tab Michael Murray. He's like, since I'm Australia for a while, I'm getting a dog and he's like, yeah, my dog's like a man's man and Jerry Pellick, he's like, okay, like you know whatever that means, and then he finds out that his dog only has like one testicle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Wait, but how long were they filming that movie?
Speaker 3:He got a dog for a month, two months, and I remember.
Speaker 1:We need what happened to the dog. Where's the dog?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't know. So they were there for two months, but I remember Hearing about in the news when it came out they actually had a shut production down for about like six weeks because the lot actually caught on fire and and burned everything down. Yeah, so they had to rebuild. This is when he proposes to Sophia Bush, but you know, that the reason why they got divorced is because she heard that he's he proposed while they were filming House of Wax.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh oh that I was not prepared for this tea, you guys, will you tell you?
Speaker 3:like I was so deep and like the us weeklies and like everything back then.
Speaker 2:Oh, when I first I don't even know how I fell in love. Fell in love is such a strong phrase, I don't know how I stumbled upon. I was in the fifth grade when it came out. Oh.
Speaker 1:No, you're frozen. Do we lose you?
Speaker 3:do we lose you?
Speaker 1:every couple. Oh wait, oh no, we're. Oh wait, go back you were in the way grade when you fell in love, oh. Slash stumbled upon upon yeah okay.
Speaker 2:And I, but I'm saying I don't, I, so I don't think I watched it. Then, like I was in the fifth grade when it came out and so it must have been later on that I watched it, but I Just remember even then being like this is terrible and so good all at the same time.
Speaker 3:Yeah and like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know it's. I honestly forgot how like slashery it is. I did too, because we watched it like two years ago.
Speaker 1:Can you hear us now I can. I watched it two years ago and thought like, wow, this is the perfect amount of everything. For me it's like not too scary, it's not too gory, it's like just good enough that I want to know what happens, but like not so bad that, like it was just like the.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I was trying to get to earlier. Yeah, I'm talking about like the resurgence of movies is. That's what a lot of like the late 90s, early 2000s were. They weren't scary, it was like let's just watch pretty people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, gory it was. Yeah, it was like a little not gory but like slashery. Mm-hmm, I don't know maybe I've just gotten a little more sensitive. Yeah and it didn't do that.
Speaker 3:Well, I think overall. Oh 70 million worldwide, which I was surprised by and honestly I think it's because Paris Hilton was in it, I was like I don't think they should have happened her in it because it's like gold, silver, like obviously they're gonna throw all the money at him to have, like, and it's like a well-made movie. I mean, yeah, they literally built that town. They literally built that set out of was that?
Speaker 1:do you know anything about the wax situation? Like what was that substance? Was it like what? How'd they do that? It was wax, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was also so at the end of the movie, when what's it? Nick and Carly? It's his name, nick, right? They're like Scratching at the wall. Huh, they said that they actually had to use peanut butter because I think they were getting too stuck in the wax, like this Wax wasn't doing what they wanted. Interesting that last scene where you see them kind of crawling out and coming out for where it says house Of wax, like they had to use peanut butter, yeah, so Interesting.
Speaker 3:That's why the set burnt down, because they were putting like flame retardant on it, but the wax was coming over on the flame retardant. So when a candle lit up, the flame retardant was covered by the wax.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, oh my god wax.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was actual wax. Wait this is wild. I was like.
Speaker 2:I feel like I need to go rewatch it now.
Speaker 3:You'll. I mean, you know there's still miss Paris Hilton. But like Chad, like worry, I was like, oh god, you're such a God, such a douche.
Speaker 1:But honestly, even the guy who was supposed to be the main, like the main character boyfriend. Like who he's a dick.
Speaker 3:He died. Yeah, they're all dicks.
Speaker 1:But also I was wondering if he was supposed to be a dick or if he was just supposed to be like a no dude.
Speaker 3:I think he was kind of like dopey.
Speaker 1:No, not the friend.
Speaker 3:I was talking about Jared Padalecki or yeah, jared. Padalecki. Oh, I kind of took it like he's just like a dopey kid from Florida, like oh cool, I have so what?
Speaker 1:yeah, but he's like. There's this one scene where he's like super, what was it, caroline?
Speaker 2:Oh, he was like Mad at his growth mad at his girl, because the gross guy hit on her and he was.
Speaker 3:These days and like blaming it on her and I was like I remember I was watching it with my son's, with Logan. I was like, don't be that guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, so I need to know it after he paused it and rewinding it like five times. When he's crawling back into the tent he literally has like a giant shit stain on his sweat.
Speaker 1:We paused, we were like stain.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're back there, like Was that what we're doing? Oh my gosh, I didn't catch that.
Speaker 2:I know yeah. Could they not afford to get him a new pair, Do you think?
Speaker 1:it was poop.
Speaker 2:He probably said something.
Speaker 3:I think they're probably just annoyed with him. They're like him, the shit sweat pants. But I will say in general he just like plays characters I just don't like. So he was in Supernatural. So, I watched Supernatural and I just cannot stand him and I think, like his character Sam one time was like voted were the most annoying characters.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Speaker 3:So even like when I didn't watch Gimbal girls, so when I watched Gimbal girls and he was on it and I was just like I don't know, he just annoys me, he just plays annoying people yeah we watched it with our friends that like watched Gilmore girls and Winery Hill and she's had the same thing to say.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, all right it must just be like a worldwide feeling.
Speaker 3:So how do we want to do this? Do we want to like, go like not necessarily seen by seen, or do you just want to talk about parts of the movie that stuck out to us?
Speaker 1:I think Maybe parts of the movie that stuck out to us?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we can give like a brief overview, even though he's like already really gotten it yeah, if you haven't caught on by now. It's, they're in a wax house. Okay, wait, no they're going.
Speaker 1:It's four teenagers, five teenagers. They're on the way to a.
Speaker 2:No, they're six two couples, and then the brother and his friend. Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:Yep, they could, they die real quick. Okay, so they're on their way. They're driving to a football game. One of the characters is like really excited to go to the football game. They decide to have stop halfway. They're because it's super late. They like have camping gear, they camp in the woods and in the middle of the night they smell this like horrible smell. You know like what the hell is that? And they're like, I don't know, let's just party and go to bed. So they like do that in the next morning. Am I forgetting anything? No, that's scared good. Yeah, the next morning One of the girls no, no, you're missing the part where.
Speaker 1:The guy comes in the shrine on a truck comes, he just like shines on their campsite and they're all like get out of here, dude.
Speaker 2:And then they like throw it Chad.
Speaker 3:Mcmurray's character throws a beer bottle.
Speaker 2:The bad guy. The bad guy, chad the bad boy, throws a beer bottle at his truck and Like, see if it's like. Look at that, sen Charles.
Speaker 1:Just the boy and just a red sign.
Speaker 3:The guy throwing Mark. No, the same one. The character throwing the black guy.
Speaker 2:Maybe Farrah. There's no one included. It's even more large. There's two.
Speaker 3:The guy both Nick. He like had a football scholarship, he's got a great arm and everything. And then he like stands in front of everybody and puts his foot up over his head. Like yeah, you want to step to me.
Speaker 1:Like what are you gonna do? It's really dumb.
Speaker 2:The whole movie. The theme of the whole movie, I feel like, is that they could have avoided all of this, which is mostly every movie. That's the theme of every movie. But, like the whole time, you're like, yeah, they didn't have to do it this way. They didn't have to do it this way either.
Speaker 3:Yes, so, okay, go on, meredith.
Speaker 1:It's the next morning. The next morning they're packing up the truck. The Mustang belt in the car has been slashed. So, they realized they're like. They split up first of all, which is like here we go.
Speaker 2:Well, you forgot. They're peeing in the woods, Paris.
Speaker 1:And the girl are peeing in the woods. Is that how they discover?
Speaker 2:it and she slides into.
Speaker 3:Yes, because she wants to go explore what that smell is.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. Which?
Speaker 1:like another red flag. Okay, yeah, okay so before they find out about the car they go to explore, the smell they pee. She falls into a ditch. The ditch is full of dead animals and she's just falling deeper and deeper into this pit and screaming. And then she gets saved. And then she sees a hand the hand is fake.
Speaker 1:The hand ends up being this creepy ass guy and another pickup truck pulls up and he climbs into the pit of animals and, like, pulls the hand out and it's like a wax hand. And he's like you thought this was real. And they're like yeah, we did. And then so they're like okay, we figured out what the smell is. It's these dead animals. And they go back and realize Well, that's when they split up.
Speaker 2:They're like the fan belt's broken. We're gonna have to come find a town anyways, where is the closest town? And he's like get in my car, I'll take you to it.
Speaker 1:After he watches her undress she, like Chad Michael Murray, graciously gives his sister, his wife beater to wear. And then that creepy ass guy watches her change from the ditch and the guys are all still like, yeah, let's get in the car with her and make her sit in the middle seat for 15 miles.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's so many decisions. Okay, so also, I mean, I know, this is just like a quick synopsis- but it always annoyed me how she was, like I'm stuck. I always was like just bitch, turn your body around Like you can get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, yeah. They try to play it like quicksand, like the more she moved, the deeper she sank.
Speaker 2:But there's no way. A bunch of dead deer bodies is like quicksand.
Speaker 1:No, you're right, I didn't even think about that, shanika. She could have just like put her foot down and stood up.
Speaker 3:Great issue. It'd been more of this stuff, but you're like already bloody up, like just turn yourself around.
Speaker 1:So dismal, she's just like making biscuits.
Speaker 3:My gosh, oh my gosh so yeah, this is where we like this movie. You guys, we like this.
Speaker 1:It's honestly, I highly recommend so he, yeah, the creepy guy to drive into town, but then the other friends are like, we care so much about this football game.
Speaker 2:Football game, we're gonna go and let you guys go with this creepy ass maze to a town that we like don't even know where it is, and we'll just catch up with you later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna meet you at the gate. And I'm thinking, who says I'll meet you at the gate when you're like hours away? I?
Speaker 3:know Like they still have to go buy tickets.
Speaker 1:They still have to, I know.
Speaker 3:Talk to scalpers.
Speaker 1:Logistically speaking, it was a nightmare.
Speaker 2:It was never gonna work.
Speaker 3:They woke up at 2.30. My son's like, they slept till 2.30.
Speaker 1:I know, that's what.
Speaker 3:Caroline said.
Speaker 2:She was like no one. No one sleeps until 2.30 when they're camping Like it is bright outside.
Speaker 1:It's impossible and you're sleeping on the ground.
Speaker 3:We also talk about how they set up camp in darkness. Oh, good point, Good point Pure darkness and guys struggle to do it in the daylight.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, gosh, they're all sleeping on.
Speaker 3:They're with the creepy guy in the truck and like he smells, I kind of forget what happens after that?
Speaker 1:He's stinky. Yeah, I mean I can't. I can't get around this truck, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:So you know, she's like keep with the window down. And then they say there's like no window, no handle to open up the door. And then the creepy guy's talking and he puts his hand up. They see he has a knife and he's like, oh, this is just you know, forward like you know the beer. And he, like stabs it on his dashboard. I'm like, ok, wait a fuck up your car even more, I know. And then he stops because he's like oh, I forgot that this way into the town is washed out. I just have to change my wheels over into four wheel drive. Can you help me out? And Jared Padaleck, he's character, I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1:He's like oh, no, we'll just walk from here and, yeah, they get started for creeped out at that point, which I'm like I don't understand why.
Speaker 3:Now, but other things. He's like well, get on then. And so they walk around like a bend and they're like, oh great, here's the town. They go, they see the house of wax he comments on it. But they go into the gas station, no one's there and they're like maybe someone's at the church. So they walk into the church, they say hello and then, like you hear people coughing, crying and someone's kneeled down, and then he get a quick shot of the pastor looking up real quick. They're like, oh, sorry to interrupt, so they leave. The guy comes out. He's like oh, you just like to bust into furals.
Speaker 2:Fucking Beau.
Speaker 1:Beau. He was nasty, which he looks like a blend of so many actors to me. The whole time I was like, is that that guy? And I looked him up and he's like and nothing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2:But he looks Well and you were like is he supposed to resemble Elvis? Like is his character supposed to be Elvis?
Speaker 1:Well, he's doing the Elvis lip thing for like the first three scenes he's in and he didn't even do it the rest of the time. It's very confusing With the hair stuck back in everything. The hair.
Speaker 3:OK, do we find Beau attractive.
Speaker 1:No, that's the thing Sometimes, because sometimes you're like he looks like someone and then you're like, no, he's like the off brand of this person.
Speaker 3:I think he's like the angles, like certain.
Speaker 1:I'm like, ok, he's cute and I'm like no, maybe I know yes, I fully agree. I fully agree.
Speaker 3:So, so they they go back to. Oh, so, while he's like finishing up with the funeral, he's like to be 30 minutes. They check out the House of Wax. And Wade, that's the boyfriend's name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is the there? The lack of urgency, just the utter lack of urgency with these two.
Speaker 2:They're like I'm like he said to be 30 minutes to make it to the game.
Speaker 3:No, Well, remember, he didn't come for the game, oh that's why he said that's why. I came yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean, they're just like toddling around the wax museum.
Speaker 3:Like he's just happy to spend time with Carly because Carly is going to New York to get an internship with InSyle.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:So proud of her.
Speaker 2:Also that like blip in time where Paris is. Yes, they're like are you going to tell him? And she's like I'm just like late, but I've been late before and I'm like, so, bitch, are you pregnant or not? What was even the point of her being pregnant? That was a plot hole, I don't know.
Speaker 3:It's just like you know, his parents will never let you marry him. Mary, I'm like why I'm just white.
Speaker 2:I thought that too. That was my like. I mean, why else would it be? But also I thought that was such a If they give no other context.
Speaker 3:Crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like comment to make, because Paris didn't say I want to marry him. The girl was just like, please, not going to marry you and Paris is like I didn't. That's not.
Speaker 3:But I guess at 18, like that's the mentality you have, Like you get someone and you get pregnant like oh no, you get married now.
Speaker 1:Make an honest woman of her. Yeah, because I feel like I would have been like.
Speaker 3:I would have been like naive back then and been like, oh so you're getting married now. Ok, yeah, so I. And then they were kind of like really pushing that they were from like Gainesville, Florida, right, so I don't know much about it.
Speaker 2:It was also 2005. I don't know much about 2005. And back then that's what you did.
Speaker 1:I guess so.
Speaker 3:Florida. But I guess they were making it very like small townie. And yes, like, because like, like, even like that joke when he's like New York City. Well, they got.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he's like very.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they're trying to get like a po-tunk po-tunk town and it's a pretty big college town. But in the movie they're trying to make it sound like, I guess, pretty po-tunk, I don't know.
Speaker 3:So maybe and this is like not being like not offending at all, but maybe it's kind of like a Clemson style where, like the college kind of makes the town.
Speaker 1:I think that might be how it is. Yeah, OK.
Speaker 3:OK. But anyway, so walking around the House of Wax and you know they're both like is this supposed to be famous people? And you know you're seeing people like in party scenes and all this other stuff. And then Wade sees a dog. He's like, oh cool, look the dog. And then the dog barks at him and that's the only thing that's not wax. And then at one point so he's like playing on the piano. And then Carly is like looking through the mirror. Go on.
Speaker 1:I was just going. Oh, I just have to note that Vincent's earlier work that's on the mantle when she's like just perusing the collection is honestly quite interesting. The octopus looking type of things, right, yes, and like the lizard with the human head, like Vincent, you showed us a promise, we took a strange direction, but those were cool.
Speaker 3:Vincent has skills.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Vincent has skills. I did feel like they watched. We knew who Vincent was as so early. There was no mystery in this at all.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you see the scars on the wrist when the guy hangs his hand out the truck Right and you're like, oh, that's the boy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So we should say at the beginning of the movie it's like in the 70s right and there's this one kid and the mom's like you're such a good boy and he's like eating his cereal, and the other kid comes in like a bat out of hell. They are like literally like taping him to his high chair my chair.
Speaker 3:And the other kids just like eating and like you see the mom like making a wax, like mask face thingy, and so we're to believe that the disfigured one is like the bad one. But then we find out it's actually Bo. He was a bad one because he has like the scars on his hand and everything from being taped down. So, anyways, both they go back to the gas station and they're going to leave money on the counter and Bo comes in. He's like you're just going to steal it. And he's like no, we left money on the counter. He's like well, I've got a 15 up at my house, just come with me. Which? Who?
Speaker 1:keeps extra stuff at their house and it's like that sounds so shady.
Speaker 3:Like that sounds so shady. You have every number there, except for 15 up at the house.
Speaker 1:OK, I know when they get to the house and he's like I'm just going to go change real quick before I grab that for you, and it's like no, sir, yeah. I want that right now. I'm not trying to get cozy.
Speaker 3:And then wait a second. I'm going to take a Liz, and so let me leave once again.
Speaker 2:My girlfriend is no team and we just know.
Speaker 3:Let's talk. I remember seeing it in the theater and I was with my sister and she was like this is what his ass get looking around the house like it's shaking that little preserved pig Like, yes, a little freaking.
Speaker 1:I don't know what are those things, those toys that had the gel in an exchange color when you shook them.
Speaker 3:So he's, he took his whiz and he is in this room, just everything. And I think this is why I was saying he's like so, to me like a dope.
Speaker 1:Um, because he's looking at these terrifying instruments and he's like cool.
Speaker 3:And he's like, yeah, he's like winding up the little saw thing and stuff, and then the lights go off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then at this time, like it goes down, it pans to like where it's dark, but you know they do it to like where we can, kind of the audience can see what's happening, and this is, like always, one of the worst things that I hate.
Speaker 2:Yes, what happens is? This part shook me as a kid when he gets snipped. The Achilles anything with Achilles.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, achilles, like next cracking it, that is oh.
Speaker 2:I got it, yeah, and I remember after like I don't know if it was after this movie, but I remember there being this like rumor that there'd be someone hiding under your car that would snip your Achilles, whatever the urban legends? Yeah, that's like just what I like thought of every time. I'd like get into my car at night would be freaking Wade getting his Achilles. I never heard by Vincent and I'd be like hopping into my car three feet away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I used to read urban legends and they actually did that when the urban legend films and I think I actually did that in the first saw film. So that was like a fear of me for of my life Someone's going to kill my Achilles, which doesn't seem like it would be an easy task. I'm sure it's not someone's first you know, because first of all, they're trying to attack someone. You would have to like go into your car backwards, get your Achilles.
Speaker 1:So it's very true and like very slowly.
Speaker 3:Seriously. But listen, it was a fair I had it.
Speaker 2:It was the same Same. I like, would literally like, jump out of my car or jump into it.
Speaker 3:Yes, so at this point, and like he snipped it good, like that blood just splurts it just squirted right out and at the same time Carly is like I think she starts calling Page right Because she sees, she notices that the headlight is busted out.
Speaker 1:And she's like this is the guy from last night. Yeah, and she starts freaking out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Because she's like where's Wade? And he's like, oh, he must still be inside. Because he comes outside this time and like he gets in to hurt the truck and locks the door and he's like, this is my truck. Open the door, which I was kind of like, well, fair, it is his truck. She's got nerve. And then he breaks the window and she starts to car and like they back up and like it kind of kind of goes off like a over a cliff thingy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what the hell was that?
Speaker 3:I have no idea. It's just so convenient, right. Yeah, like the phone, like back then it was like the Nokia style phones that like we all lost because we took a sharp turn and they go flying, I mean. I've totally been there, like that was like a story of my life.
Speaker 2:Yes, also when she climbs out of the back window and then, like, gets to the, it takes her so far.
Speaker 3:I was like he would be standing there.
Speaker 1:Yes, he would be standing right there there is a second where it was to be a jump scare but it I we were dying because it's like the headlights come on and then he slams the car hood, like with both hands and it like looks like something out of like a spoken word, theater performance or something like that is. I feel like I watch it happen in slow motion. It's like the great part of the whole movie.
Speaker 3:And then I think at the same time it's like cutting back to what's happening with Wade, right? So with Wade, we see the whole process. So Vincent has him on a table, he gives an ejection to numb him, he puts wax on his face, his facial hair, and rips it all off, smooths off the face, and then he even, like, sews up all his cuts and everything and then a chair, and then he puts this crazy ass contraction on his face and you're kind of like he on that show was like, yeah, I felt claustrophobic and if I freaked out, like it was going to take them time to take it off, so I just had to like find this thing yeah, which I understand because, oh gosh, I think that's possible, and so I would say this this, this like sequence, was like pretty scary knowing, yeah, you have nothing to, you can't help yourself.
Speaker 1:He really was the one getting covered in wax.
Speaker 3:I think he did end up doing it Like he had like four body doubles like stuff, ok, but I think he actually ended up getting in to the thing himself to so what do they do about their hair Like?
Speaker 1:that's true. Did he have a cover on his hair?
Speaker 2:Not in the movie, I don't think maybe they the way that they filmed it Like, or maybe he has a wig on.
Speaker 1:Oh, maybe.
Speaker 2:So the first thing I thought I was like thinking about Paris Hilton having to get wax in her hair, and that would not happen.
Speaker 3:No, did we see her go into the contraption or no? No, she doesn't. No, the other friend goes Dalton, yeah, but yeah, we see Wade get completely waxed. I would say that was scary because he's still alive. But you can't speak yeah.
Speaker 3:And that comes into play later on in the film. So anyway, so then Carly runs back into the church and then she notices all the people in there are waxed, and then it's a recorder where it's actually playing, where the people are like coughing and crying. And then Bo comes looking for her and he's like looking, he knows, since he set up the town and his brother, he knows how many people are supposed to be like in each row and he's about to leave. And then Carly, she actually hid underneath, like the preacher's big robe, which was honestly so smart I was like that was brilliant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. He reaches for her, runs out, and then it's like an aerial shot and you see he takes her down real quick and then he takes her.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's when you see too, I think, I think she breaks an arm, breaks off, and you're like, oh shit, oh yeah, and that's how it's, like bodies under the wax.
Speaker 3:And then there's another lady that keeps on looking out the window yeah, you know the nosey old lady. And so she looks up the window again. She screams help me. And you know, she just closes her window and Bo takes her underneath the like garage gas station and starts playing music, ties her up and everything. This was also terrible to gluing her mouth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hated that.
Speaker 3:I told Logan I was like what you do is you just start putting a lot of spit towards your lips and then that way it won't seal a skill he will never need.
Speaker 1:I was like Justin listen I was just like.
Speaker 3:I was like just start putting a lot of saliva towards your lips when she rips it off. Yeah, and I don't know if they did it, but Alicia Cuthbert was saying that she wanted them to actually use like actual superglue. No Like, come on y'all, no one's getting paid enough for this.
Speaker 1:You're like little deep in the books. Money is not going to make that much money. This movie is not going to be a method actress.
Speaker 3:I probably got paid like what a million or so like for this movie, I mean, which is good, but come on, yeah. So I think at this time we do see Blake, dalton and Paige. They're in traffic. It's just terrible. They're like we're never going to make the game. Blake's mad, but they decide to go back and camp out somewhere else next to like a sugar mill, because they talk about how the sugar mill, like once that shut down, everybody left the town, and then there was also talking about, like the mother and the dad who was the doctor and he had performed a controversial surgery on his kids because they were conjoined twins, and so, yeah, at this time, so Dalton Okay, who is it? So it's Dalton and Nick. They take Blake's car to go to the town, right, and then they're going to split up and then he's looking for Carly, and so I don't know why she did this. So she gets one hand free and she's like putting one finger through those strange swords.
Speaker 3:I'm like who do you think is going to see?
Speaker 1:that, like that kind of sense of that makes.
Speaker 3:So Bo sees it, grabs it and cuts it with wire cutters or something like that. And so now her finger is just like blood's coming out. She opens up her mouth and screams out Nick's name and they have a fight. And it's so funny because they show like Chad Michael Murray training for like the fight, street fighting scene and documentary thing and he's like doing all this hip stuff like circles. He's like, yeah, this looks like. He's like I need to have more sex, my hips are so tight and yeah, he's here as Hilton while you're proposing to Sophia Bush asshole yeah like you.
Speaker 3:all have to watch it, that's just why I can't believe we break down bad on who you're crushing on back then. So they fight, he gets Carly loose and because what happened? Did he like knock out the guy, stab him?
Speaker 1:I can't remember he, I don't remember either, but it's something that's like somewhat the guy leaves. I think he's like he left in his truck or something, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, and then at this time we also see Dalton. He goes into the house of wax and they already have Wade set up by the piano. So it's like wait, what are you doing, man? We're looking for you and, like Wade's, still alive.
Speaker 1:Is Dalton the dumb guy with the face. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's a little bit of a blinded me of an ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1:Like in the way he looked, or or all of it, the way that he acted the way that he looked at dark time in my life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we hope he's doing well. He's, yeah. So Dalton sees Wade and he's like hey buddy, what's going on? And he touches him, he feels the wax and he's like, oh, I'm going to get you out of there. So he starts feeling his skin, but as he's doing it like his actual skins, the wax and skin are melted together he doesn't stop, he doesn't stop and then, like you see Wade crying, obviously he's like oh sorry, buddy Sorry.
Speaker 1:And he's like still ripping his skin. Oh sad.
Speaker 3:And then Vincent comes with a knife and then tries to get Dalton but gets weighed and then, like weights, eyes roll back and which Vincent looked I was like.
Speaker 1:Vincent's character is uninspired. Yeah, I know his appearance is just like the mask was so bad and the like hey, the long hair, like I just feel like it could have been like way cooler a little cooler, it just felt, yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:He's scared to shit out of me when he looks in that window. It was the only time.
Speaker 1:And then you see him and you're like, oh yeah, this is a Halloween Express situation.
Speaker 3:I think it was just like the stereotypical like he's. Just like you know, lives, lives like in the dungeon doesn't care about how he looks, he just wants to create, you know.
Speaker 2:Halloween Express. I'm dying.
Speaker 3:So, anyways, dalton runs into the dungeon further because it's smart to run further, and so you don't always run out and Vincent catches him and, like, slices his head off, and then it does that thing. It's the blanks. Yeah, the head rolls and then blanks has that reaction.
Speaker 1:Which I was. Is that a? Could that happen in real life? It does, it does Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't remember, but it's like in history. They say it's like a I don't know, like a chicken or whatever, but like a guy. He got like his head chopped off and he says like one last word or something like that oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Like the last word in his throat. It's like the last word in his throat yeah.
Speaker 1:It's possible.
Speaker 3:It's just the nerves of the body, just like reacting on its own.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because isn't it something like the brain is still alive after X amount of minutes after something? It's something I don't know science I don't either.
Speaker 2:You're asking the wrong group of gals.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's okay I believe you so and then, at this time, you know Paige and Blake, they're getting their freak on and you know Paris Hilton has to have her moment.
Speaker 1:Her strip T's lasts as long as a real strip T's.
Speaker 3:It's very long yeah, and I just remember like Paris Hilton's gorgeous, great body, but I don't think she has sex appeal.
Speaker 1:No, well, that was the whole thing, right, like, I think that was her whole shtick. Was she the one that, like, what was the story about a celebrity in that era that, like, answered the phone during sex on their sex tape? Was that Kim K or her?
Speaker 3:Hmm, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But I mean, she has no sex appeal.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say this about her because I like I mean I guess everyone thinks this, but I'm like she just feels dumb.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that was the whole thing too. Yeah, like there's, like no sex appeal about it.
Speaker 2:It's just like is she okay? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Y'all have got to watch this thing on YouTube, oh my gosh. I can't wait Because you know like what they're doing, like the cast that is just like can you take another one? Okay, everyone, look at this camera. She's like thanks bitch, thanks bitch. Look at this camera and I'm just like oh God.
Speaker 1:I'll just like a stick.
Speaker 3:It is, but I was like I do not miss this. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 3:So they're at the campground set up and then Nick and Carly like they're like, oh, I remember there's this lady who was looking out the window and then they kind of realized that the whole town is wax. And then at this time they're like we need to arm ourselves. So they go to like an army surplus and like he sees a bow and arrow at this time those guys start shooting at him and then they get the bow and arrow and then they run into the movie theater and then walks in and once again he's like counting because he knows like the setup. And then Carly's like they're just like staying quiet. And there's what happened to baby Jane is playing on the screen. And so he sees Carly and then he's about to shoot her. Then Nick hits him with the arrow, they run out and then again, like when you're shooting, like some of these wax figures, like bugs, are coming out of them.
Speaker 3:Like that's how old and decayed they are, and so when Bo comes out of theater, they're waiting in the lobby. They shoot him again, and so he goes down and they get his shotgun and they try to look for extra bullets. He doesn't have any, so Carly puts the gun behind the counter. And so at this time I think this is when Paige listens to the voicemail oh no, the boyfriend went outside. She's like babe, what's that? I hear something, because like he was playing music and he was like yeah, man, what happened to the music? That's the only thing I'm worried about.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Like stereotypical, like just done, like black. I hate the way black people are written and moving. Wait, yes, okay, yeah, talk about this because I yes, his character is just so bland, there's like nothing to write Cause, even like at the beginning of the movie, when Paige is talking to him and he's like rapping, he's like, yeah, I got my bitches in a dude.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I forgot about that it seems like annoying and he's like this is our faith. He's like come on and even like that. And then he, he bailed Nick out of rehab because I'm not rehab out of jail because he can't mix, cool. He's like, yeah, he stole that car right Just for the thrill of it, huh, and he makes like yeah, something like that you know, we find out that it's actually Dalton.
Speaker 2:It was actually Dalton and then mix all cool.
Speaker 3:He's like, hey, your your jacket's clean, it's okay.
Speaker 1:I'm like I've shut up. You don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:His character. I mean, I don't even remember that his character was so forgettable, I know.
Speaker 3:So, um, so it's Blake. He actually hears the voicemail and then we go to Paige and then the lights are off or something, and then she's like babe, babe. And then, like she turns on a light and it's Vincent in her face. She freaks out, she runs out of the tent and then you see Blake there, like struggling with like a big old knife in his neck. Then she walks by and stabs it in even more, but that's, she runs, yeah, she runs into the sugar factory and then she's like on these steps that have like the holes, that's like a steel steps with holes underneath, and again, more Achilles work.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:She gets all and another great. It's like the finger too there's like a lot of things of like how to get limbs chopped.
Speaker 3:Yes. So and that's the thing I was like, this movie was like pretty good, pretty boring. It's a shame it did it do better, but I think like they took a shot with it being Paris Hilton and one people wanting to see her die, but like her fan face just didn't care enough.
Speaker 1:No, that's not what they were. I don't even know what the fan was like. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it was like her fan base, like like turned up to watch her show but didn't wasn't interested enough to like to watch her do anything else.
Speaker 3:Although I did watch.
Speaker 1:I wasn't like part of the original fan base, but I did watch her show about finding Paris a best friend. Did y'all watch that?
Speaker 1:And she would like take them out to like she would like take them on friend dates and see if they were like a good friend match. And she like I remember one episode where they went to an ice cream parlor and they got like the $100 ice cream sundae and had gold flakes sprinkled on top of it and she's like this is the only way I eat my ice cream. And then she like would eliminate people and like at the end of it she got a best friend.
Speaker 2:That's when did this come?
Speaker 1:out, I don't remember. I feel like it was like when I was in college to like to like, probably, like 2010,.
Speaker 3:maybe, Okay, I remind you of Brody Jenner. He had a show like that too. So sad I never watched it when he was like looking for bros.
Speaker 1:Was that bromance? Yes, wait, I cannot believe this is coming up twice in this podcast, shanika, I had. I went on a date with a guy my freshman year of college and he his favorite show was bromance.
Speaker 3:I'm, I'm, I'm going, I'm googling it now because I'm into it and Meredith was like who's?
Speaker 2:favorite show was it.
Speaker 3:It came out in 2008, bromance.
Speaker 1:I didn't know it was like an elimination show. I didn't know who Brody Jenner was. I thought it was just like a show about brody and friends. Yeah, man, but still still confusing. Loving this crossover. This is amazing.
Speaker 3:And I remember this one guy I worked with at the time no, I didn't work with him anymore, but we were still like my space friend and he was like oh, brody Jenner has a show being bromance, he thinks he's cool and blow, blow, blow and like, just like, went on this tangent. I was like dude.
Speaker 1:Like do you want to hear so much?
Speaker 3:exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Um, that's funny.
Speaker 3:Anyway, sorry, that was a tangent, but we did not follow her into the horror scene. She's in the sugar factory, so she gets the knife, snaps her back the legs, so now she's limping. She gets into a car because, like she sees, like cell phones and everything and they're all dead and it's a bunch of cars so you can tell they've been doing this for a while, like taking people off the highway and like oh, I did not even make that connection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's where their story goes.
Speaker 3:Cars, yeah, shit, so she gets into a car and he opens the door, she hits his mask and she leaves because she pulls off like this old railing thing that just happens to be sharp and perfect as a weapon and so she runs away. She's like looking underneath the car to see she can see his footprints, and then when she looks up, he throws it like a javelin throw and gets her straight in the head and kills her.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 3:And then dies underneath.
Speaker 1:Oh and so.
Speaker 3:So Dalton had a video camera and he was like documenting stuff. So he at one point can't find his camera. Vincent has it and he films like him like pulling the like spike thingy out of her head or whatever.
Speaker 1:And he was like that's right.
Speaker 3:So he filmed them at one time, sleeping before we saw Jared Palakies shitsting points, not a shitsting. Now we are back at, I think, at the house, because they're still trying to find Wade and Dalton, because at this point they think they're still alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they're also looking around like and they for keys, like information and stuff and they find like pictures of like the boys when they were conjuring twins and everything. So at this time they hear a car coming and it's Bo and he has Blake's car attached to it and it's got Blake and Pages body in the back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sorry, it's.
Speaker 3:Vincent that has the car, because Bo has arrows in him and he comes home and he's trying to get the arrows out of there yes. The whole air comes in and he's trying to help him. He's like get away from me. He's like go on. He's such a dick I'm like no wonder here.
Speaker 2:So mad.
Speaker 1:I know poor Vincent. Vincent is an artist.
Speaker 3:He's like I just want to do my art, I know. And then so Vincent like gets a knife, not a knife, he gets like a lighter and a spoon and like smooths out his mask. Yeah, that was an interesting part. And then Bo's like hey brother, you're getting real good with your work. You're doing real good, Mom, I'll be proud. I'm like stop and get.
Speaker 1:I know the emotional abuse is it's heavy. It's heavy in that one.
Speaker 3:It truly is so they. So at this time, nick's upstairs around the same room where Wade was, and he sees like a light coming through the floor and then Carly she was underneath the pool table at first and then she moves and she's going up the steps. Nick scraps her. He's like mom, this might be a way out. And at this time he sees Dalton in the contraption. He's like come on, buddy, we're going to get you out. And then, like his guy, like yeah, he does like this thing. And Carly's like God, no, like I mean, first of all, did you really think he was still alive? Like just leave him.
Speaker 1:Like it's the jiggers we also pause and rewind that part, because when the head snaps the reaction is so like not appropriate for what's happening? No, and he's like not, it was like oopsie, like it was exactly. Wait, what Do it? He's like? Yeah, well, no, the guy that pops the head off is like he's like no, I know.
Speaker 2:And he's hugging his sister. He's looking distantly, with nothing behind the eyes.
Speaker 1:I know I think he was trying to look traumatized, but it really just looked like oh well, he tried so hard to act in this video and it just did not work out.
Speaker 3:So they're trying to get out the tunnel. They can't find lights, and so at this time they're like starting switching everything off and on and the town is going off and on. And then the brothers are looking outside and Bo like has to work on his face. He's like cause obviously he knows where they are because they control the town, so he goes down there and then no, it's Vincent that goes down right, and then they get into a fight and at this time that like the blacks is still going because he was like working on Dalton. So they turn the fire up more, they pour the wax and this starts to create a fire. They, the house is connected to the house of wax, so they end up being in the house of wax museum and then that's there where they see Bo. And then we get another like tough guy fight and Carly is just kind of there being Carly, and so this was so dumb. He has this bat and she hits him in the back the first time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah he just punches her and obviously, you know, just takes her out. Real good Like knocks her ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why'd she do that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then Nick is about to like hit him and then Bo gets him with a knife, like in the side of his leg, and then Carly finally comes and hits him in the head with the bat and then she just goes ham on him finally and like he's dead. But then we still have Vincent and then at this time the fire is coming and like things are starting to melt down.
Speaker 2:And this is another part where I'm like you could have just made one different decision, where she decides to run upstairs from him. Yes, Up the upstairs of the burning wax house.
Speaker 3:And that was right out the front door. Yeah, so that scene was actually when Chad Michael Murray and the guy, the actor they were filming and fighting and Chad Michael Murray is like I felt my hands start getting hot and bubbling and I look over and I see a fire, and so it was during that scene where the first time the production burned out.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, I did. Okay, this is crazy, I would when you first said there was a fire, I was like, oh, probably like an electrical fire.
Speaker 3:Oh no, like that. And now you're like oh no, it was while they were filming. Yeah, yeah, that's wild Mm. Hmm, yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 3:No one got injured. I think someone like the behind the scenes person maybe have like some burns but like thanks, like I mean like it burned, like a house burnt down. Like it was so scary, yeah, yeah. And so then they go upstairs oh, cause Carly's upstairs. And then again the whole house is wax, so she sees like a crib that has to conjoin twins in it and she puts that up against the door. Yes, the symbolism. Yeah, and then Vincent comes upstairs. Oh, yes, the symbolism.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, that's right Because as he comes through the door, the knife cuts the twins and app right at the place where his face was cut from his brother as a baby. Yes, yeah Because back then we cared about symbolism in a movie right, we sure did yes, paris. Hilton in it? We sure did yeah.
Speaker 1:That's how we went to see it. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3:Well, and the whole thing about.
Speaker 1:Like there then the Chad, Michael Murray and the other girl, the not Paris Hilton girl, are also twins.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, that was another thing. He was like good twin, I'm the bad twin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's like loose.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then that's the thing of behind the scenes, who were saying like they thought that Chad Michael Murray should have been the boyfriend because they felt like it was a little too incestuous between the two of them.
Speaker 1:Oh funny.
Speaker 2:Interesting Twins Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it kinda was.
Speaker 3:So totally random, but when 90210 first started that was the problem that they had with Brenda and Brandon, like they were more flirtatious because, you know the actors were flirtatious and it was coming off In the film.
Speaker 1:Are they siblings in the show? Yeah, they're twins, oh funny.
Speaker 3:I remember, like very early on in like the first season, Brenda has on this one outfit and Brandon goes.
Speaker 1:Brenda, you know not the way that a brother would Ew Okay.
Speaker 2:Everyone, everyone knows a pair of those siblings from high school that you're like you guys seem. Oh please.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But okay, there's this commercial that's kind of been like recirculating. It's a folder's commercial from like this same era. Mm-hmm, the brother comes home for Christmas have you seen this? And like the brother comes home for Christmas and then like the he's like I brought gifts and the sister's like oh man, you shouldn't have. And like if they're like up early before the parents are awake and they're just like having a little brother sister time in the kitchen making coffee before the family's up, and it is like the sexual tension.
Speaker 2:Well no, he says. He says I brought you a gift and she's like you're my guest. Oh yeah, he just looks at him like really yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Those folder commercials were like.
Speaker 2:On another level, yes, but, yeah, this one was like why. So like I guess, flirting with your brother was like in Max then I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Oh my God.
Speaker 1:So, funny.
Speaker 3:Okay, so she's like trying to talk to Vincent like you're the good twin. You know you do these things and obviously that's not working. At this time Nick like hobbles himself up and they're fighting again. They're on the bed and again things are getting soft because it's getting hot and Carly has the knife, like she pulls out the knife and she ends up like stabbing Vincent, killing him but because, and then like he gets kicked through a hole and it just work. Oh, because the floor is melting, so Bo has fallen through the floor.
Speaker 3:He forgot about both, and then Vincent falls through the floor and then Lance perfectly on top of his brother, so they're conjoined again.
Speaker 1:And joined again. Look at that full circle, look at that symbolism Look at that. Guys like cinematic masterpiece Of course.
Speaker 3:So again at this time they've got to get up the house because it's melting down and slippery and everything, and she's like Nick the walls dig, dig and they're and stuff.
Speaker 2:And now we know it's peanut butter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they dig at the most inconvenient place. I was like they'll dig right where the sign is, like the block letters are All these other options you had? And like the house starts coming down and they kind of like slide out and they just watch it all burn down. The cops come the next day and they're like, yeah, this town's been shut down, you know, ever since the sugar mill and the only way we saw it, because the fire from the highway. And as they're leaving, they're like, hey, you said that the doctor and the wife only had two kids.
Speaker 1:Well, this one shows that they had three.
Speaker 3:And then we see at the end the roadkill guy with the dog and he's like waving.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then my just like that was like a road. No no, no. But I did feel like, OK, this guy is going to be significant, like the roadkill guy is significant in some way, but like, just like happening to be another sibling is like, ok, well, there's no. And the house is gone and the wax museum is gone. So this guy is just going to be scooping roadkill. He's not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I was looking at some stuff today because I think even in the movie they never actually say his name, because you know Bo in Vincent and yeah. So it's so funny to actually have him as roadkill driver when you look up Wikipedia. But I think I'm, I'm but when I looked at IMDB stuff, they do have his name, but I think it's either behind the scenes or something, but he's actually the one that cut the belt. He cut Wade's belt on the car. Oh, so he's the one that lures them in.
Speaker 2:He's the one that was the victim. Ok, this tracks out, so they've got like a whole ring.
Speaker 1:Yeah they should have made that more obvious, because they made some other stuff real obvious.
Speaker 3:And actually there's like a scene that was supposedly cut from the beginning of the movie, because you see in the film when Vincent's like working on a girl and he's like curving around the breast and everything oh my gosh, that scene was ridiculous they show him like catching a girl at the beginning of the movie and that's the girl that he's working on. So I think he can probably like. I think that's like on the I have the DVD. To what?
Speaker 1:you playing that on? Do you have a DVD?
Speaker 3:What should I admit that I have the DVD, but maybe I need to go.
Speaker 1:It has the extra cut. It has the extra extended scene. I need to check and see.
Speaker 3:I truly can't remember. That's so funny. Yeah, I was trying to see whether carving the boobs.
Speaker 1:all I could think about was, like all of the teenage boys in that movie theater, like, oh man, he's great Titties. It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that's House of Wax.
Speaker 1:OK. So that's why we said we're going to do a quick. It's not but synopsis, and we sure didn't.
Speaker 3:His name is Lester.
Speaker 1:That seems like someone that being a roadkill yeah. Lester man, Lester was creepy.
Speaker 2:Someone that doesn't watch. Ok, well, let's do a rating. So, like, as someone that doesn't watch any scary movies at all, what would you rate this?
Speaker 1:movie, like in terms of scariness, or like enjoyment or what.
Speaker 2:Enjoyment.
Speaker 1:Like a 6.5.
Speaker 2:Like I enjoyed this because it was fun to talk shit about.
Speaker 1:Like no, like I think it really was like a great horror movie for people who don't like horror movies, because it's this, is that, well, this is my thing. I don't do demons, I don't do scary images. Like if I close my eyes and I there's something from the movie that can mess me up in my dreams. I'm not going to watch it Like saw. I saw that stupid tricycle man for weeks after I watched that movie. So I don't do any kind of like demons or like image, like scary images, and there was neither of those in this movie. So it was like scary, just the right amount of jump scares.
Speaker 2:And just the, just the right amount of like. I may want to make fun of this, so it's not.
Speaker 1:I can make fun of it so it's not too scary. I did not think about it going to bed at night. I like it was like the plot was interesting enough that I like wanted to know what, what, what the story was. Bye.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I mean it, I okay.
Speaker 1:And I close my eyes because I don't like watching gory stuff. So every time I knew something gory was about to happen, I didn't watch it, but it was easy to know when that was coming.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, shanika, I would say I would say like Six and a half, seven, like honestly, like, look, if it's on TV, I'll watch it. Like I mean it, I I'll watch it. You know, if it's like on AMC or something, I don't seek it out anymore.
Speaker 2:So it's like we make you do a podcast on it.
Speaker 3:I know it's October and you know AMC is showing like films, and if it's on and like nothing else Like I'll watch it. Yeah, playing Candy Crush, you know. It's very entertaining and it is, it is, and it just kind of takes me back to that time, like what I said, like all the beautiful people were doing like yeah horror movies back then because, like, that's just like what you did. So it is interesting to think about that time and his like I wait who?
Speaker 1:I was gonna say it's interesting to think about that time because I I've never thought about it as like there was a time where beautiful people were in horror movies, mm-hmm, and like it. It's funny because it that's so true, like it was like really and I think cuz I think I always get the vibe that like the good scary movies came out in like the 70s and 80s, like the truly very Movies, and then when we were coming up it was like scream and all that and then all, and now I don't know what Happens now.
Speaker 3:It's like most of us like jump scare, like conjuring style Aha movies. So and I did an episode with someone one of the movies that I mean it came out 2008 but it's still, you know, fairly new that I absolutely loved was the strangers Girl.
Speaker 2:You know how I feel about that one. That one scarred me for life.
Speaker 3:I, I love a movie like that. That's realistic and you're just getting killed cuz you were home.
Speaker 1:See, I hate that. I won't do that. Um that's another category. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Also I'm going to these now like you might like ready or not. Really I think you enjoyed that. That's like hey, but it's like funny, Wait, wait is that the one where there? Was Samara weaving when she gets married, and they played behind.
Speaker 2:I loved that movie married it.
Speaker 3:This is the one I told you to watch, enjoy it because it came out at the same time as knives out, and I think I talked about another podcast. That's like I love a Movie that the dynamic is just like a rich white family because, like, even though they're like Having to murder this girl, like they're still just talking about family issues. Murdering someone another like that called your next where the.
Speaker 3:Targeted and like the daughter's, like I can run the fastest and they're like no, sweetie, we're gonna let such as, such as like why does it ever believe in me? I'm like Find family dynamics like you think I like getting murdered. Y'all are still gonna talk about that time. Yeah, so my hair brush.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's funny, so I think you would actually.
Speaker 3:I mean, like I do you like, you like and get out, mayor, didn't you?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but that's different, like get out and his other movie, us, us. I can do those just because they're so Smart like that's what I'm listening.
Speaker 3:I wish Jordan Peele would come out with a movie like Once a year during the summer. Yeah, it was so much fun. I'm like I need him to.
Speaker 1:Anything else really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:I like us more than get out just because for me, as someone who watches a lot of horror movies, I thought like when you like got down to the basics of the plot, I was like I've seen this before. You take a boyfriend or girlfriend home to a crazy fight and they do some crazy shit, yeah, what's different is, yes, the black man survives. Yeah, cuz they actually did a target Audience watch and they actually had him getting arrested and people really pissed off about that, because the whole things we like look at all of that, just for being black, like all you go through this and still don't are not believed.
Speaker 1:It was not received well at all.
Speaker 3:So I like things like that now get out us. No, but good, like I said, ready or not really good. I watched it's kind of Texas chainsaw, massacre vibes, but there's no like crazy Leatherface guy running around but it's called x. And then there was pearl Was like the prequel to it with Mia goth, and that was really good, and there's another one coming out. I was trying to think of some other movies now. I mean they're also doing like the screen movies. Those are taking a turn that I really don't care too much for.
Speaker 1:Like I just like a, like a reboot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I feel like now there's kind of like money grabbers and people are just like really heavy on a solja. Yeah, that's how it was with, like the latest Halloween movies you know, they're gonna take away all the other ones and just based on part one, like Halloween 1978, but yet they pull from all the other movies for the nostalgia. I'm like okay, listen.
Speaker 3:I don't mind you rebooting a movie? But if you're gonna reboot it, then you need to act like nothing else happened and just like Be creative with it. Don't just bring in stuff that we've already seen from other movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:There's another one called Talk to me that came out and I heard that one was like really good, so I need to check that out.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I think that you would really like, ready or not, the next one you need to watch because it's very it's like more humor than it is scary. But it has a lot of like suspense elements to it that like keeps it fun, Mm-hmm Okay it's a good one.
Speaker 3:It's a good one on. So okay, like yeah, I kind of talked about it before, just like my whole issue with, like House of Wax is like I'm supposed to think that Chad Michael Murray is like this back, like this flat guys, like idolizing him. The black. All the money and yes.
Speaker 2:I mean, he's driving a Cadillac?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's the most well off off of all of that. Yes, you think this guy's cool? Yeah, and where are you getting the money to bail him out?
Speaker 2:Very interesting and also this is a total sidebar, but when Chad Michael Murray, his character kicks the whole, the like guy who's like asking for money, oh, my gosh yes money cup. I'm like what.
Speaker 1:Things that that's okay.
Speaker 3:That's the stereotypical asshole things like back then. Yeah, get a job yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like they were like you're a bad guy. He's like got it.
Speaker 2:God, let me kick this guy.
Speaker 3:I have a homeless guy that I can, yeah it's, yeah it was so watch that behind the scenes series and, like you will learn that he is not a bad guy, because there's a part like where props are like falling on them and he was like literally slipping into the wax, getting stuck, and he was like getting pissed and he's like this is ridiculous and he's like this is bullshit. He sees the camera again. He's like no cameras right now.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, my gosh oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:I think throughout the series like two or three times he's like no cameras. But, dude you, you signed up for this one time he's like, he's like doing the fight scene and his phone starts reading. He's like oh, this is my agent, I got a talk, no it's like talking to his agent. He's like can we turn the cameras away from now? Stop.
Speaker 2:Wait, I gotta watch it. That's my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh what I'm gonna say you're like, what may Paris Hilton famous? And I was gonna go on my whole spiel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I find her so interesting because I Went on a deep dive for one of my, my last birthday. I made everyone I'm really scared. My cat is attacking a bug. I don't see the bug, I just see her attacking something. Okay, anyway, I Sorry we can cut that out I, I, I did like a deep dive for one of my birthdays. We, I made all my friends come with a PowerPoint presentation on a random subject and mine was on the viper room. This like the nightclub and Holly or like an LA, that was like where all the celebs would hang out to like get away from the Papa rut Do you know about it?
Speaker 1:Yes, but they. One of the things that they would all say, and this, these documentaries is that, like parrot the era, like Paris Hilton, basically single-handedly ushered in this new era of celebrity where like they were all like working actors and writers and producers and like Musicians, and they were all famous because they like had a skill, but she was like the first of her kind. That was just famous because she wanted to be famous.
Speaker 2:She was famous for being famous.
Speaker 1:And so it's just I don't know. It's just so interesting because then you have her acting and she's first famous for being famous and then she's in an actual movie with like no skill and it's just all like.
Speaker 2:And she's supposed to be the one that's driving everyone to the yeah, but it's not the actress. Yeah.
Speaker 3:When she was supposed to film her first scene, like she was like they had to bring in like a doctor thing. She's like I'm just nervous, I'm not ready.
Speaker 1:I was just like, oh my god, they, they, they messed up her lines, like every single one of her lines is so entertaining in the in the fact that it's like Canny how she's able to mix everything, so not. Yeah every single one of her lines is like oh Cool, I'm scared.
Speaker 3:like it's all the same, she could say like, and it's like this yeah, let's go Look at the, the smell. Let's go Like, let's go follow it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's staying. I was looking for my chapstick.
Speaker 3:Like, I'm going to do a quick, I'm gonna do a quick screen share so you guys can see the cast photo that I'm talking about, where Paris is like can you all see my screen now? Yes, yes, this is the. Oh my gosh, the guy in the middle. Like there was like times like when Chad would have like the hood on and then put off and Chad, he's doing too much, and the guy in the middle.
Speaker 2:He's the main character. I know why is he in a pinstripe suit. I don't know, and this is wild. We gotta share this photo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this will be, in the Elvis lip in the background.
Speaker 2:I know I'm using Lee.
Speaker 1:He's confusingly attractive, like he just misses the mark is if he.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to see if there's any other photos of that. I was like is it me like he's? Yeah, this is just be bad guy, nick. Oh my god. Then they have a little natural lack of this photo.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's so. Wow, paris is. I love that I love the hair too, is so telling yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, also Dalton's hairline is very strange. Who's?
Speaker 3:Dalton the guy in the middle. Oh, I'll go back up to the photo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, wow, this is, this is a time capsule, right here I know, so I will.
Speaker 2:Yes, this was so fun.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 2:Don't I love the house of wax so much and I'm always nervous to like say that I like it so much because it's so bad and it's a cult classic.
Speaker 1:I think so too.
Speaker 3:I think it actually gained back some of its money from like DVD sales and whatnot. Like it's appreciated. It's appreciated now.
Speaker 1:That's so funny.
Speaker 3:But, it's entertaining, it's really entertaining because it's like, even like when the faculty came out, it didn't do that, wow, but I'm like it's a good movie. But I think the problem is is again like when the faculty came out, they were doing all these Tommy Hilfiger commercials. They were just like so big on hyping up who was in the movie instead of the movie itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like they guess it's like well, I don't like Paris Hilton's, I'm not gonna see it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not, as it as a horror movie people would see you like oh, paris Hilton's on this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is which is how I saw it, because I was like I was late in the game. I was just like, oh my gosh, here's this like scary movie that Paris Hilton happens to be in yeah, Finding out that it's like a little treat Is crazy yeah.
Speaker 3:I know, okay, I'll send you guys the link and, like I said, it's on YouTube.
Speaker 1:So I share it on the page. Yes, okay, watch it. Yes, please do. Thank you so much. Yeah, this was so. Tell say the name of your podcast one more time, so it's horror Hughes podcast, so horror Hues.
Speaker 2:Awesome, and you can find her on all those like listening platforms and on Instagram.
Speaker 3:Yes, absolutely yes, so cool so much.
Speaker 2:this was so fun this is great.
Speaker 3:All right, I'm gonna go ahead and stop the recording. Okay, before you guys go. All right, but, but, but, more.
Speaker 2:All right, guys. Thank you so much for joining us this week. If you have not watched House of Wax yet, I still highly recommend it, even after we gave all the spoilers and picked it apart completely. And then I also wanted to remind you guys, follow us on Instagram, sister ship podcast. We have got spooky season candles for sale throughout the month of October and they actually smell so good like better than any of my home goods candles, so Make sure to check those out. They're Thackery Binks themed from hocus pocus. And my last, my last ask is that you send us spooky stories for our last episode of October. We want to share some spooky slash ghost stories, so if you've had any encounters with the dead, send them our way. You can email us at sister ship podcast at gmailcom, or you can DMS on Instagram, and we will see you next Tuesday.