Sister Sh*t

Frozen Bras + Finger Pen*ses: Sleepover Stories

Caroline Smith and Meredith Walker

Ever wondered why celebrities like Mila and Ashton are rumored to be refraining from leaving an inheritance for their children? Or why it's easier to justify pricey, healthy dog food over cat food? These intriguing questions fuel our conversation in this week's episode of Sister Sh*t. We’ll also share our thoughts on adjusting to a new school year and the importance of opinions on even the smallest matters - yes, water bottles included!

Our discussion takes a nostalgic turn as we dive into Olivia Rodrigo's influence on sleepover culture and the classic games of our youth that still manage to send chills down our spines.

But we don't stop at games. Tune in as we relive our sleepover mishaps and the essential lessons they taught us. From classic pranks to unexpected scares, we've got some tales you wouldn't want to miss. Plus, we’ll reflect on our childhood friendships- the squabbles, the reconciliations, the journals, and our secret hangout in the woods. Our shared experiences have contributed to the enduring bond we share today and continue to shape us. Don’t miss out on the laughter, the learning, and the love, all in this week's episode of Sister Sh*t.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Hello, hello, welcome to sister shit. Sister shit, I'm Merida, I'm Caroline, and here we are. Here we are. How was your week it's been? It's been a week that I have thought it was the day after the whole thing, and yesterday I came home and Jay, my husband, was like talking about how he was going to have to babysit your girls to tonight. Yesterday he was like well, tomorrow the girls will be here and I'm like, no, tomorrow's going to be Thursday.

Speaker 2:

He would not believe me until.

Speaker 1:

I showed him a calendar.

Speaker 2:

And it's like that. Yeah, that's, that explains how the week has been. Yeah, how's your week? Good, I think I'm just adjusting to like my four year old is in. Like we did a full day of school, like full school days, last year and I went back to a three day, three hour program every day and it's just been a. It's been a rough transition. I just it's really not much time at all, so I've been. I just think I feel very disjointed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, rightfully so. But yeah, yeah, once you, once you go to the full day.

Speaker 2:

I was going back and I and I don't regret it, but I do feel like am I going to feel scattered all year and do I just need to accept that or?

Speaker 1:

do I? Is it just transition? You'll get your groove.

Speaker 2:

People have been asking how I, people have been asking how I'm doing, and I'd speak one of those times where I'm like, yeah, I'm good, I'm fine, I don't know. It's like, well, I'm in that, I'm in that right now Like are you okay? You're like yeah, I'm okay, I'm okay, I just, it's like, don't go at me started because I won't stop talking about how I'm doing, because I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh. Okay to open us. I have a question for you and I want to know your opinion.

Speaker 1:

Okay, is this like the start of the segment of things Meredith hates? Yeah, I don't know if it should be better. That's like a strong word, but I do have opinions, and they're generally like negative.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but the water bottle. We got a lot of feedback about the water bottle. People were like really trying to sell us on the water bottle. And I'm going to tell you do it, girl, but I will judge you from afar. I'm just kidding you, do you, but, like, don't buy the snack tray for your freaking water bottle, because then I okay, honestly, if you want to make Meredith mad, just send her water bottle accessories.

Speaker 2:

I mean that to me is just like speechless. I am speechless because it's just like have we come so far as a society, or like so, not far as a society, like, is this turning into idiocracy? It's like Wally when they just like sit in the chairs and eat.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Like I'm drinking my water. That has me in it and food all around it because I can't have a separate container for my chips.

Speaker 2:

I can't. Nothing makes me more mad now, but that's not actually what I want to talk about. Okay.

Speaker 1:

I want to talk about move on from the water bottles eventually.

Speaker 2:

I will say I was in the comment section of someone talking about the snack tray and the comment seemed majority of people being like we do not need this, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I was like, okay, this is a great meter. This is the consensus, as long as this is a consensus, it's we're good, okay. It really really stresses me out. Okay, I, okay, actually I wasn't going to do this one, but I think I will because I feel like this is. I want to actually really want to know your opinion, because I don't have an opinion on this.

Speaker 1:

I just find it.

Speaker 2:

I want to discuss it, okay. Celebrities not leaving an inheritance for their children. I did not even know that that was a thing. Well, Mila and Ashley, which we just talked about last week, they recently, which this is all word of mouth. I did not. I don't even know where this came from, but someone just told me that they have recently said they're not leaving their kids an inheritance.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know literally Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry why.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I don't know. I shouldn't have brought this up actually, because I didn't know research. Should we research and come back? Maybe? Maybe this might not even be true, but I but I think it is Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

So they said their why let's circle.

Speaker 2:

You know what? This will be much better. Next week We'll do some research. I'll find out the details.

Speaker 1:

And if y'all have details, send them our way. I obviously don't know.

Speaker 2:

I have a whole list, so let's pick something else.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

Healthy dog food.

Speaker 1:

Healthy dog food.

Speaker 2:

Like. I'm getting ads regularly about it's bullshit. Buying your dogs healthy dog food. We should all eat food. Why would you give your dogs processed food Like? Have you gotten those ads? No I clicked a total of three times. I've given them I've like, filled out the thing I've done, the test.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so you went there.

Speaker 2:

I've been like I want to give my pets good things. I love them. I mean, get there, it's like literally $3 a day when you break it down.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I was there when I was obsessed with my cat. I still love her, obviously, but she has attacked my toddler one too many times. So there's been a change of relationship. I will say healthy cat food.

Speaker 2:

Healthy cat food is a whole nother level that I'm not willing to go to For some reason. For a dog it feels a little more justifiable, but for that's not. This is controversial Damn. I have a dog and a cat, but it okay, hear me out.

Speaker 1:

My cat had lots of bladder issues. For a minute and time we thought it was because her food was too salty. So, we were having to give her like special cat food that we got from the vet. How much was it so? So at the time I, j and I were very young. J was working at a dog boarding place where they could get samples of the cat food for free. So his boss would give him like a box of samples.

Speaker 1:

We use like three boxes of the samples. They stopped getting it. We were like we can't afford this so we put her on like something mainstream and the bitch never had another problem, so it wasn't the food the whole time, anyways. So I was there for a minute. We recently got a dog. She just turned one last month. She's adorable. When I started taking her to the vet when we got her they told us do not Do the bougie shit. Oh, yes, they did they literally told us do not do the bougie.

Speaker 2:

Did you?

Speaker 1:

ask them specifically about it. No, what they told me this is a precautionary thing. They said no grain free, no bougie, like literally none of that has been tested, it is all brand new. No one knows side effects.

Speaker 2:

Use Purina use your in a while.

Speaker 1:

That's what they told me they were like use anything that says it has been Scientifically backed, if it has been tested for years and years and years and years and it is still good and that is all your dog.

Speaker 2:

This is so anything special.

Speaker 1:

If they have an allergy, sure, but if like, even if they have an allergy, like Purina makes an allergenic food. And so they were like stick with something I. There's a certain like for dog food, a certain thing that they get if they've been like scientifically backed, I can't certification.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like on the bag and they were like, wow, just do those because those have been around forever and there's nothing okay, the ad I keep getting. I can't remember the name of it, but I keep getting this ad. It's like food a you have to refrigerate it.

Speaker 1:

I don't have, I don't have room for that.

Speaker 2:

Second, it's so expensive, and I'm just thinking in this economy, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. I will drop a french fry on the ground for her every now and again, I will give her a chick-fil-a little chicky-nuggy. Yeah I. She does not need to be eating refrigerator.

Speaker 2:

I know it just feels like too much and I, you might, I don't know, I'm like the water balls, I might, we might have people that are like I'm very okay, and I'm sure it is.

Speaker 1:

There is nothing, I have zero judgment against yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I just can't afford it.

Speaker 1:

I can't afford it. A and be.

Speaker 2:

My vet told me it's which, but that's actually really helpful, because you think like oh yeah, fresh fruit is always better which it honestly probably is.

Speaker 1:

It probably is, but the thing I just feel like I'm not.

Speaker 2:

I don't feel bad, that I can't afford it, I'm just like. I'm just like we have other things to pay for right now our student loans are about to be.

Speaker 1:

Oh, don't even back up me started on that. I gotta rearrange my whole budget. But I and I'm like, if you are feeding your dog, the bougie shit.

Speaker 2:

Good for you, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I wish I had your.

Speaker 2:

I had a friend that used to buy. She was a vegetarian and but she would buy her dog steaks. Make them steaks.

Speaker 1:

So I had a friend who's grandma, but she cooked them.

Speaker 2:

I think that probably want to raw.

Speaker 1:

Right, no one wants to do. Your dog eat a rock stand if it comes up to lick you, it's like bacteria city but they have those enzymes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

But you know how I feel about raw meat.

Speaker 2:

I'll like leech an entire. Yeah, I have a very, very bad phobia of salmonella. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

So um, I had a friend growing up not growing up in high school, that's grandma would pass a McDonald's on the way home like constantly, and she would bring her dogs, but each there were two labs. She would bring them, each a McDouble.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you would just like eat the cheeseburger Would she like chop it up.

Speaker 1:

No, it was so disturbing to watch that she would literally open the wrappers and just like, let them eat it off the wrapper every day.

Speaker 2:

Not every day like I.

Speaker 1:

I had to stop and get the dog a cheeseburger several times, oh like it wasn't, were you already going?

Speaker 2:

or she was like you're coming over my house?

Speaker 1:

We were going or we were on the way there and like my friend would be like hey, we got to stop and get brownie a McDouble. Wow, alright, p brownie he.

Speaker 2:

I mean no joke. I'm sure he did not live very long.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yikes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so if you're feeding your dog bougie, dog food, power to you. There is no judgment here, no.

Speaker 2:

I yeah, that's what I said I'm coming. I'm coming at this issue with like when my no that told me that I don't need to be doing that.

Speaker 1:

I said, okay, yeah, no one has to tell me anything else and I don't have to feel like shit about myself. I know my dog the dry crunchy stuff that. Has been around we so not fun to eat.

Speaker 2:

I know Same thing every day I think about, do you?

Speaker 1:

like you eat. No wonder you're up my butt whenever I eat. No wonder you want just want some rice lick of a crumb of anything, because you have been eating turt. That's really why they eat cat turds. They're like I will eat anything. Other than the brown crunchy shit. Please, the love of God, give me a cat turd.

Speaker 2:

My gosh, oh man. So you know what? They're doing great.

Speaker 1:

They're living.

Speaker 2:

they're living inside houses, I know, I know I think about the coyotes and they're like fine, I think about the coyotes, something I think about we do.

Speaker 1:

We don't need to keep talking about this, but I will say we've got a possum that comes up on our porch and eats our cat's food.

Speaker 2:

I don't want that you don't?

Speaker 1:

oh, I don't this bitch. First of all, we had to change the container. We had our cat food on the front porch in a coffee container. I would wake up every day with the cat food thing tipped over and like half of the food.

Speaker 2:

How do you know it's a possum and not a raccoon?

Speaker 1:

because one time Jay looked out on the porch, because we heard we're like fighting something and it was a possum and Lilo like going at she was fighting it not like physically, but she was doing the thing where she like, acts as though her life is that like yes, and and it was a possum, but so then we changed it over to like a screw top. Mm-hmm container that bitch.

Speaker 1:

There are holes all in the top of the container it was that thing is trying to learn, it's trying to evolve so that it can twist the top and we have to spray the top with like bleach spray, because I Bleach spray, kill. Like as I'd be like stop the way to school. I would be like gosh, what is that smell? And then I would smell on my hand so that I went through an entire container of hand sanitizer.

Speaker 2:

Wait, why does it smell like roadkill cuz the possum? I think because I was like twisting the lid that the possums no, Caroline.

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, and so whoo?

Speaker 2:

what?

Speaker 1:

No, we Wait it's still going on. Yes, yes, it's been going on now, for at least it since July. July's the first time we saw it. Oh my gosh, the twisty top has not deterred it.

Speaker 2:

I wonder what you do, I will say ever since I sprayed it with bleach spray.

Speaker 1:

I don't even think it was bleach spray, I think it was just like a cleaner spray. It hasn't smelled again.

Speaker 2:

Or about like a vinegar? You could do like a little vinegar spray.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They probably like that shit. They like nasty stuff.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

You like vinegar too, you little nasty possum.

Speaker 1:

I do love vinegar.

Speaker 2:

If you don't.

Speaker 1:

If you know me, you know that when I think about dying Easter eggs, my mouth waters, Because I love vinegar so much that if I just think about how it smells, my mouth literally waters. That's disgusting Is that a deficiency, or am I just not okay?

Speaker 2:

I don't know it's a. You got a quiet taste.

Speaker 1:

I don't know anyone else that feels that way about vinegar.

Speaker 2:

I love a pickle but like I'm not, my mouth isn't watering.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna say it's like I love a pickle too, but like that's not even vinegar to me, like I could like take a little cat full. You have and didn't you like gag Vinegar? That was white vinegar. I was dared to take it.

Speaker 2:

This is something, something's happening that is not normal. We're dealing with something separate, to be continued.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it's a deficiency. I'm just gonna say A vinegar deficiency A vinegar deficiency. My body's craving something at me, it's okay. Oh man, that's an Easter egg dying kit.

Speaker 2:

All right, what are we talking about today?

Speaker 1:

Okay, we went on so far about the dog food but wanted to talk about sleepover culture, which you were like what does that even mean? So let me tell you how I started thinking about it.

Speaker 2:

I was listening to Olivia Rodrigo's new album which like so good, oh my gosh. I love her.

Speaker 1:

And the song All American Bitch, where it's like light as a feather, stiff as a board.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and I was like holy shit memory unlocked.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, light as a feather, stiff as a board.

Speaker 2:

Did y'all play that? I was always too scared. I played it one time, I think, and I was like what the hell is happening? And then I like found out later that it was like maybe kind of spooky and I was like mm-mm.

Speaker 1:

I, we would play it all the time?

Speaker 2:

Did it work? Did you float? I never was the one that was like I'll do it, cause I automatically assumed that like demons were gonna attach to me and I would like never be able to get rid of it.

Speaker 1:

But I participated in the two finger holding. Yes me too and would chant yeah. Light as a feather stiff as a board.

Speaker 2:

Did you ever do Red Rum, not Red Rum, mary, what was?

Speaker 1:

it. Mary Red Rum was one too, but then there was, it was like Mary, something I can't remember either.

Speaker 2:

Gosh, what was that? It was like you turn around three times and you see Mary, bloody Mary, bloody Mary, in the mirror.

Speaker 1:

I did it with another person in the bathroom and it didn't work and they were like you have to be alone.

Speaker 2:

And I was like F that, F that they tried to shove me in that thing and shut the door. I said F, that I literally almost like busted the door down. I don't do scary stuff by myself, me either.

Speaker 1:

At all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I didn't. I did a Ouija board one time when I was like in first grade and I went home and to my mom that we did it and she was like never do that again.

Speaker 1:

And I was like, okay, she's like, if you bring a demon up into this house, I swear to God, meredith, I know.

Speaker 2:

And I never did one again.

Speaker 1:

I never did a Ouija board. I think it's like way too scared.

Speaker 2:

It did move, it worked.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, but I think it's like a subconscious or something. Okay, I think about the episode that we just watched of Ouija pin 15.

Speaker 2:

Or they do the Ouija board. She's like master beige.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the brother's, like it's just your subconscious.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's where I learned that it was just your subconscious that ended up. Until then, I was like it's seamless, it's a ghost.

Speaker 1:

I mean, who knows, who knows? But on top like again, sleepover yeah.

Speaker 2:

It is a whole thing. Now that we're into it, I'm like yeah.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot that happens. Did you ever?

Speaker 2:

have a bra frozen? Or did you ever participate in Frangie and Bra? Oh my gosh, I froze a bra.

Speaker 1:

I was always like I am not going to bed because I had such bad phomo, I would stay up with the very last group.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I just got to a place in my life where I was like I'm going to bed, yeah, which you're like about to be 30.

Speaker 2:

So that really, you're right on track, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Before that I was like I have to and I just went to a bachelor party a couple of weekends ago and I was the last one up, I think both nights.

Speaker 2:

Oh, good for you.

Speaker 1:

No, not the first night, but the second night. I was the last one up, so While and out, while and out. But I did do some bra freezing I also. We would do like the hand in the warm water and be like cute pants.

Speaker 2:

Oh, to make a pee.

Speaker 1:

You would chant that.

Speaker 2:

No, but like.

Speaker 1:

I would go Wish that Did it work. I never saw it work.

Speaker 2:

That's not mean.

Speaker 1:

I know.

Speaker 2:

I want to say I'm participating in a bra freezing. Oh, I have a vague memory of this and it was like a sleepover. I didn't know a soul. We had just moved to the neighborhood and it was like a homeschool family. I got invited. So, honestly, kind of shocking, a bra freezing was going on because it was a. I mean, these girls played like Little House on the Prairie in their spree time and I was like I watched Nickelodeon. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what Little House on the Prairie is. Have you ever heard of?

Speaker 2:

Run and Stimpy. They would like want to play like historical fiction, imagination time, and I was like I got nothing. I got no historical fiction material up in here. But if we want to play puppy dogs, I'm down. I wonder what they're doing now. But anyway, they had. They're probably very successful. You broke your arm at their house. I broke my arm at their house at that sleepover. I'm pretty sure. Actually I don't know, but they we froze it brought that sleepover and the girl got very sad and she went home.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit you know, but I could not tell you. If you pay me a million dollars, I could not tell you any of their names or what they looked like.

Speaker 1:

It was such a good living time. They had a little to share that I hung out with like once and twice. And I yeah, I remember going to a sleepover where the mom had planned all these fun games. Was that her house the same? House as that, yeah, and they like yeah, I remember playing some of the fun games, but I also went to some sleepovers as a kid that like shit hit the thing, oh, tell me.

Speaker 1:

I specifically remember one that I wasn't invited to but my friend took me with her and, like the mom just called and was like we already had a friend spending the night, Can she come? To you Like why did they do that? Anyways, so I went with her.

Speaker 2:

It was like a neighborhood sleepover, but there was like 16 girls or something Like. It was like a birthday party sleepover like elementary school Okay, shit started happening.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know how it started happening, but like that mom was very brave. And it broke up into two groups.

Speaker 2:

And then there was like people that wouldn't talk to each other.

Speaker 1:

So then there were like messengers, going back and forth between the two rooms. It was so intense and I just remember being like I did not sign up for this.

Speaker 2:

I was not even invited to this. Yeah, I literally did not sign up for this. I did not RSVP.

Speaker 1:

My mom did not call your mom about this. But yeah, and then I went to another one where we sing karaoke the day that we were getting picked up and I chose with two other girls we were going to sing Redneck Woman by Gretchen Wilson and I said hell.

Speaker 1:

And their parents told mom and dad that you said hell in karaoke, yes, and I remember being like am I going to get in trouble? And mom was like, no, it's in a song, but like I remember being like, that's so your parents, freaking, just told on me I hate that, I feel like they, like I remember they did it in front of me and they were like trying to be funny about it, but they were like straight up telling on me oh, it was so weird it was so odd.

Speaker 1:

It was the same 16 girl sleepover. No, that was a different one. Yeah, I went to a lot of sleepovers. I also went to a sleepover that I was not invited to oh my gosh, why are you always that girl? We're always that girl, we're always that girl and she was like come play with my hamsters.

Speaker 2:

We, and so I did. The girl who was hosting the sleepover, the girl who was hosting the sleepover.

Speaker 1:

My hamsters were mean as shit and so she's like, she's like here, and she hands. She had them in separate hands and she hands them both to me.

Speaker 2:

They were Sabotage.

Speaker 1:

They were two, like males or something. They start going at it. My finger gets in the mix. One of them is attached to my finger. I'm slinging my hand around. Blood is flying all over this bitch's room.

Speaker 2:

And her dad came in and yelled at me.

Speaker 1:

I got in trouble.

Speaker 2:

You never put the hamsters together, don't you know that?

Speaker 1:

No, I got in trouble because I slung blood all over her room.

Speaker 2:

I literally got in trouble and you didn't know this person.

Speaker 1:

No, it was like a neighbor of a friend's that I was spending the night with. We went over to hang out at her house. What did the dad say? He was like you got blood everywhere, blah, blah blah, blah, blah To you. Yes, Meanwhile my skin is flapping on my damn finger from his little chompy teeth. Did you call mom? I don't remember, but I honestly think he was nervous too.

Speaker 2:

That you would get-.

Speaker 1:

That he was nervous that I would hit my mom would get mad because I don't know.

Speaker 2:

He was pissed, there was a sleepover, there was blood all over the carpet.

Speaker 1:

I mean there was blood everywhere. He was like I.

Speaker 2:

He's telling his wife like I knew this wasn't about a good idea, but now we have to clean up blood out of our carpet. Some little girl's blood Sleepovers. Man, I don't think it's so funny. Too good that you went to multiple sleepovers that, like, moms didn't sign off on. I'm like I don't know that we'll do sleepovers as a parent. I don't know that I'll do it, unless it's like family members or like family friends.

Speaker 1:

I know.

Speaker 2:

But like we used to be sleeping over at my new one's house.

Speaker 1:

I slipped over this one girl's house that her mom just straight up left. I was like in the third grade Her mom straight up left and left us with her older sister and her older sister through a party. And there was like a bunch of middle school boys at the house and I was like in the third grade. I hate that Nothing happened, but I was like I feel like this isn't supposed to be happening.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Yikes, I was like, oh my gosh, I slept. I wasn't in a sleepover, but I slept over at this girl's house one time. This was a very dramatic year. It was sixth grade and she I was friends with. I came in new, I was the new girl. There's a friend group that was very dramatic.

Speaker 1:

The ones with the blue eyeshadow. Yes, I remember them vividly at Car Rider Line. They all wore blue eyeshadow and they all wore thongs yeah in sixth grade?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Scary so.

Speaker 2:

I was in over my head. I was like I literally rolled up into that school with my wheelie bag. Like I was fresh out of fifth grade and I was in a pool.

Speaker 1:

As you should, yes.

Speaker 2:

And I did not know what I was about to get into. But anyway so I slept over at the cool girl's house and she was like me and so-and-so aren't friends anymore and we're going to burn all the friendship, like all the friendship stuff we have, and throw them in my pond and I was like OK, you're like I think that's littering and it felt OK.

Speaker 2:

But honestly, the most notable thing about that experience is that there was dog poop all over her yard Like they had a very old lab and there. I just remember being like Got in her ass in the sixth grade and you would have told anyone that. But I wasn't that girl.

Speaker 1:

That would have been like the most embarrassing shit in the world.

Speaker 2:

I remember she has dog poop all over her yard In the sixth grade.

Speaker 1:

I remember the rumor coming back to me that my mom was a bad driver and I cried.

Speaker 2:

Wait, that's so sad People. That's what kids are going to be saying about me, literally.

Speaker 1:

I remember being like oh, that's embarrassing. I know they were, like her mom's, such a bad driver, and I was so-.

Speaker 2:

I remember the same school. One time our dad worked in golf.

Speaker 1:

And so he was a golf court superintendent.

Speaker 2:

So one day he drove us, picked me up in his pickup truck and he had trees in the back of his truck and this girl goes. She wasn't my friend, she was like someone. I like she was just like a girl in my class. That was also very cool. And I was like get into my dad's truck. And she was like hey, meredith. And I was like yeah, and she's like nice trees. And I got in the car and I was like Ted, why would you come and paint me with trees in your truck, like I was like so mortified that he would do that to me.

Speaker 1:

I remember that same school year we dropped you off at a school dance and on the way to the school dance. This is not really the school dance, because that was like kind of sad, but you looked bomb, by the way. All those other girls looked way too old.

Speaker 1:

I know I looked bomb and you looked amazing in your little suede skirt. But I remember on the way there because we lived in the neighborhood right next door to the school, so I was like I'm going to hang out the window the whole way there while eating a peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 2:

Wait, you were in fourth grade.

Speaker 1:

Or not even like second. No, I was in second grade and we got there and there was jelly. We slung all over dad's truck All on the outside and he was so mad at me. He was literally like Caroline why would you eat a peanut butter and jelly hanging outside of the truck? And also, why would there so much jelly on your skin? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

I've heard that story so many times and it's really just kidding me. If you're wondering how my school danced with Tragic? It's because I painstakingly decided over what to wear. My mom and I went shopping, went to Old Navy about this very cute faux suede skirt with a cute little white top and made some boots. You look great. I looked so cute when we show up and all the girls are in like.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's 2001.

Speaker 2:

All the girls are in like skinny jeans. No, not skinny like low-rise flares Low-rise flares with like little teeny baby tees and mom was like, do you want to go home and change? And I was like, no, yeah, you were bold. I was really proud of myself.

Speaker 1:

You should be, because I was the type of girl that was like get me out, like I cared so much.

Speaker 2:

I had fire. Well, I loved that outfit. I was like I look better than all these bitches. They're going to regret this.

Speaker 1:

And I don't?

Speaker 2:

I still think that outfit was amazing.

Speaker 1:

It was. I remember thinking it was cool, but anyway.

Speaker 2:

So this girl who I slept over with dog poop all over the yard I'm talking landmines every step and I'm not even exaggerating.

Speaker 2:

So we're doing this huge, we're doing this huge fire ceremony in her backyard in this tiny little pond, there's shit everywhere and we're lighting things on fire and throwing them in the pond and I'm just thinking this is so mean and like next, you're going to want to be this girl's friend again. I feel like I remember maybe even asking Well, maybe not, I don't know. I was terrified of her, but I never hung out with her. After that, I did some fire stuff.

Speaker 1:

But like me and my friend who I'm like best friends with, I did some fire stuff. We did some fire stuff. The friend that I did the photo shoot with the eyeliner with we had a huge falling out in late middle school because we both liked the same guy. Let's just say I was dating him and she was not happy about it, but she was making out with him behind my back.

Speaker 1:

So anyways we've forgiven each other, and we did that by taking. We had this journal that we'd write notes back and forth to each other in, and the whole beginning of the journal we're like oh my god, I love you so much, bestie. And then the whole end of it is like I can't believe you Do this to me Like we like fought. So then, at like the end of our eighth grade year, I like went to her house and we like ripped all the mean pages out and went to the woods and lit them on fire.

Speaker 2:

And when the woods that was, and we're like it was like our special place in the woods.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like Marsh.

Speaker 2:

Marsh Woods Cool, cool, cool.

Speaker 1:

We like, took it to the Marsh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And we like hugged it out and we're like we can be friends again.

Speaker 2:

And then we didn't talk again, until like. That's actually very sweet. I feel like that'd even be very therapeutic, as, like an adult, yeah, it was good, like we, like freaking, handled the conflict and it was good for you Now we're still friends.

Speaker 1:

She was one of my. We were in each other's weddings and our kid. Yeah, she's one of my best friends, so thank God for the fire ceremony. Yeah, yeah, I had a very different fire ceremony and there was no shit anywhere.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's shit. I can never forget that shit. She also had a trampoline. We were. We did a couple of different test product like a test. What do you call it? Like a couple of different prototypes of how to stuff your bra.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

So we tried, we did. We had like Ziploc baggies and we're filling them with different substances and we're going out on the trampoline to jump and see which ones are most realistic.

Speaker 1:

I've never heard this story.

Speaker 2:

And it was going really well until her neighbor, little like neighbor came over who was in elementary school, this little kid and he did the thing we're like all just jumping on the trampoline and he didn't know that we had our bras stuffed. So it got very awkward very fast because we were just like running some tests, you know.

Speaker 1:

And he ruined the vibe and he came over.

Speaker 2:

And not only did he ruin the vibe and make it awkward, because we had bras for stuff. But then he did the thing where you put your hands down your pants and put your finger out your fly, Like it's a little de-do, and we and he was chasing us around the trampoline with his finger penis and I hated it.

Speaker 1:

I think he knows shit Like yeah, anyone would hate that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I literally never hung out with her again after that.

Speaker 1:

Because of the dog shit or because of the-.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it wasn't even a choice, it was just kind of like it, just like never happened again and I was like okay, I was like that's okay.

Speaker 1:

That is a thing that I think has ended with. That generation is like these, like weird one time Finger penis. Sadly, I think those are probably still existent. But the like one time sleepovers of like you're like, who is this?

Speaker 2:

person I'm spinning in their house. I will probably never hang out with them again. My mom did not know like her parents at all no one did Like.

Speaker 1:

I think that was the culture of like everyone just freaking slept over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's so, and I remember the kids that would like call to go home in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I also like-. I was never that kid.

Speaker 1:

I got made fun of because I had a kid in my neighborhood that I was very close with and he was a guy, but like we, him and I hit it off. We were like BFFs, like completely platonic. We would play Mario Kart Like him and his. It was him and his brother. And I just like fit right into the crew, and so mom would let me spend the night over there, because him and his mom and our mom were like in the same Bible study or something, but I remember girls being like she's spending the night at so and so's house, and so then I like never did it again.

Speaker 1:

I know Interesting it's weird Times were. I wonder if kids are still that mean.

Speaker 2:

I think so. I think they just do it on phones. Now I don't know if that's like cliche to say, but I think it's true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, I don't know. Vale came has been coming home with some tea lately from first grade. Well, she made a friend the first day of school and then she was like we're not friends anymore, which is like normal at that age.

Speaker 1:

It's like, I don't know, it's like that shit used to stress me out. They're like on again, off again. Silent treatment stuff.

Speaker 2:

Well, she's in first grade, so I think it's like not that yet. Okay, it's like it's still very much the like oh yeah, Of like people would literally just like straight up, not talk to you.

Speaker 1:

This my sense of justice was strong from the very beginning, Cause I remember being like this is literally not cool.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I had anyone do that.

Speaker 1:

Sitting in your face telling you that I am sorry for something that I probably didn't even do. It's like sorry that I hung out with someone that you're friends with too, without you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that stuff.

Speaker 1:

And then they would literally just like straight up ignore you. I've never had that happen.

Speaker 2:

I remember it happening, like at birthday parties and stuff Like the birthday girl, but like throwing a fit about like it not being all about them. Oh my gosh, we're gonna need to convene after this Cause. I gotta know who that was.

Speaker 1:

I honestly don't even remember.

Speaker 2:

But anyway. So what was I? Oh, anyway, but she was telling me today at dinner that she, like, she was telling me, like I don't really like playing with this girl because this, this and this.

Speaker 1:

And so, yeah, were the reasons solid.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was like she's bossy, okay, and she's mean. I was like, well, why is she mean? And she was like, well, she has allergies and I drink milk and she tells me that she can't. She tells me that she, I can't be near her when I'm drinking milk because it's on the like, because my hands are wet, but it's just the water from the carton. And I was like, yeah, she, maybe she has anxiety, like she might feel nervous about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Keith was like does she do anything else? That's mean. And she didn't say like, she said no, but she was like, no, but she's just like kind of me, like she's not fun to play with.

Speaker 1:

And I was like that's fine, you don't feel solid. I think it's good, yeah, Solid. So it's just, it's just funny, cause it's like, oh gosh, here we go you know, and I think, yeah, it's so interesting, like I don't know, approaching all of them.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

So odd Cause I remember so many weird like I don't know. The silent treatment thing used to stress me out so bad as a kid. Well, yeah, well it's like a manipulation tactic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and even now I'm like, I'm like no, we should like be eight.

Speaker 1:

Like you can't just like straight up ignore me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no you have every right to feel that way. Adults still do that and it still makes you feel this Like it's like never okay. The silent treatments never okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean like we, you can give someone some space, or like take a minute, take a beat.

Speaker 2:

We got a, something happened, we got a traumatic event, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I can't even tell you how many silent treatments people gave me. It was like a thing that people did in my age group of like I'm not talking to you I remember like spending the night at girls houses, just me and them.

Speaker 2:

And they could be silent treatment and they'd be like I'm like not talking to you.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, I hate that, and it was specifically like one girl that was really mean.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure she's not doing very well. I'm sure she's still yeah, she's probably still doing the same shit today.

Speaker 1:

She also like sicked her dog on me one time, like as a joke, and the dog didn't hurt me.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter, that's mean.

Speaker 1:

But like she like shut me on her porch with her really hyper dog and let it jump all over me and laughed at me through the window.

Speaker 2:

Bad news bears.

Speaker 1:

Anyways.

Speaker 2:

Man.

Speaker 1:

Now, I'm just trauma dumping.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, is this fun for you guys? Are you enjoying it?

Speaker 1:

It's a great episode, oh man.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, summer, yeah, I don't know there's a lot Things go down, things go down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's just like scratching the surface of, like middle school, yeah, high school Things get even weird. But like more fun.

Speaker 2:

You can drive Not having fun, you just change locations, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man.

Speaker 2:

Well.

Speaker 1:

This was super fun. Yes, I'd love to like hear I don't know. I'd love to hear other people sleep over stories, I know.

Speaker 2:

And also we're gonna. We're doing a bad dates part too, so if you have a bad date that you can like that sticks in your brain, please email it to us at sistershippodcast at gmailcom.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I already have like one that I like can't wait to share from someone else.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, I can't wait. Yes, all right. Well, we will see you next.

Speaker 1:

Tuesday See you next Tuesday, but 가방을.